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Uncle Arthur 04-03-2007 12:18 AM

How much pipe (length) for a custom exhaust?
 
Looking to build my own - how much pipe did others who have buy, and how many bends?

boostinsteve 04-03-2007 01:37 AM

I cut a whole and made it exit through the drivers side. Had to buy very little piping and I got my bends done by a local pipe bending shop. I think I got 4 feet and it turned out to be way too much.

cjernigan 04-03-2007 01:48 AM

I haven't done my own, I saw one guy who had built his own use 2 90*s, one at the muffler going back and the other coming out the muffler going out the back.

iWeasel410 04-03-2007 02:32 AM

I made my DP and full exhaust using 2 U-bends and 1 4' straight pipe along with a Summit Racing Turbo muffler. The U-bends were from JC Whitney so they had quite long legs.

y8s 04-03-2007 10:20 AM

lets see... turbo back following the stock system looks like:

90° for the outlet (smaller diam + reducer)
90° for the bottom of the downpipe
15° for a kink at the tranny
6-8" of straight from there to the cat
18 inches of straight for the cat
6-8" of straight from there to the kink
another 15° for another kink half way back
6-8" of straight from the kink to the resonator
18 inches of straight for the resonator
a few more straight inches to the diff
about 45° and 8" for the kinks at the diff
90° to exit the diff space
180° U to turn around to go into the muffler
whatever you use for the muffler
and a 90° to exit the muffler
a shiny chrome tip the size of a grapefruit.

I think I used 3x 3" U bends, a 2-1/4 90° for the turbine outlet, a 2-1/4 to 3" reducer, a 3" 90° for the muffler outlet, a 3" cat, 3" "bullet race" resonator, 3" magnaflow muffler, and 3 feet of straight pipe (give or take). plus the tip. there's enough straight on the U bends to fill in the rest of the straight space but extra straight pipe is cheap and easier because it's not squashed from bending.

akaryrye 08-18-2007 01:54 PM

well i just ordered a 3" catalytic converter, 3" dynomax bullet for a resonator, Summit Turbo muffler, and a mandrel u bend from summit. I will probably just take it to a shop and have them weld it up for me. My current exhaust is 2.5" with just a cat and a glasspack and gets a bit annoying sometimes so im hoping for a little quieter as well as betta flows and maybe better boost control as well. I aint trippin off the flows.

oh i forgot to mention that I am still running a stock size cat which has got to be killing the flow.

Dhaark 08-18-2007 02:29 PM

I'll have some 3" SS pipe for sale - I bought 18' for my exhaust... you know I didn't want to end up not having enough. :D OVERKILL

Kelly 08-18-2007 03:09 PM

www.muscleexhaust.com has great prices on Magnaflow stuff which is usually very quiet.

Philip 08-18-2007 03:15 PM

I like to lay a lot of pipe.

shinobix 08-18-2007 09:59 PM

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^ me too.







oh wait, heres my 3" exhaust. never measured it, but maybe this will give u some reference.

Attachment 216017

Attachment 216018

mated to the turbo tony dp. lol
Attachment 216019

firedog25 08-18-2007 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Wideopentuning (Post 141191)
www.muscleexhaust.com has great prices on Magnaflow stuff which is usually very quiet.

I'm running a Magnaflow exhaust on a full 2.5" turbo back exhaust, a 2.5" freeflow cat, and nothing else. On full throttle it actually sounds like stock... with pubes. At cruise it sounds no louder or quieter than a peashooter stock exhaust. At idle it just has a burly, lumpy sound.

Also, I bought a 5' section of straight, 3 or 4 90's, and I think a couple of 45's. All those gave me enough pipe and some leftover.

Uncle Arthur 08-19-2007 01:32 AM

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Considering the car has been boosted and running for a few months now, the how much pipe for an exhaust is (for me) a mute point.....

However for interest sake, a mate of mine who does good steel work put this little system together for me.....:bigtu:

Attachment 216016


It's sitting very low in this pic, and has (long) since been reworked to sit higher, and the join has been brought back to right before the 90 deg bend into the muffler.

beerslurpy 08-19-2007 03:03 AM

Hawt. I liek ur welds.

akaryrye 08-19-2007 06:32 AM

Thanks for the pictures guys, i am sure they will help quite a bit.

o.e.boost 08-20-2007 02:35 AM

what turbo muffler from summit do you recommend?...does any body know if the turbo muffler sounds good?

kotomile 08-20-2007 02:42 AM

Another good question, IMHO; how much did everyone spend on said exhausts?

I'm debating whether to go custom or buy an Enthuza.

Kelly 08-20-2007 04:30 AM

You can usually do a nice stainless system that uses Magnaflow(I always use a cat, big ass reso and a muffler) stuff and v bands for around $400-$600.

TurboTim 08-20-2007 08:27 AM

For my 3" exhausts:

Vibrant pieces: One 5' chunk of pipe, one metalcore cat, one J-bend.

Add Magnaflow muffler size to taste.

kotomile 08-20-2007 08:40 AM

J-bend = 180* U bend? Or is it different?

Did you have to bend the 5' length at all or just run it from the cat to half the J-bend, into muffler, and then use the rest of the J-bend to route from muffler to exit?

y8s 08-20-2007 09:55 AM

those estimates sound about right.

though if you want to save some coin, you dont need stainless pipe beyond the dp. it's nice, but aluminized will last a long time.


I recommend the magnaflow universal stainless (polished or brushed) in 4x9" by as long as you can fit. I have the 5x11x22 and it's real nice. and long.

kotomile 08-20-2007 10:00 AM

you have that muffler sitting "transverse" under the trunk, correct y8s?

akaryrye 08-20-2007 10:09 AM

It looks like its going to end up costing me about 220 including 3" cat, resonator, and muffler altogether. If I cut the cat and the resonator from the equation, I would be saving myself over a hundred bucks. However I dont wanna mess with my exhaust when I go to smog the car this next april, I should have enough issues for that as it is.

y8s 08-20-2007 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 141656)
you have that muffler sitting "transverse" under the trunk, correct y8s?

True.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/234-3/DSC01748.jpg

TurboTim 08-20-2007 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 141629)
J-bend = 180* U bend? Or is it different?

Did you have to bend the 5' length at all or just run it from the cat to half the J-bend, into muffler, and then use the rest of the J-bend to route from muffler to exit?

Vibrant's J-bends have one 180 and one 45 deg. bend and like two 12" straights and a 9" straight.

Umm...I use about 1 foot after the cat, to a slight bend, to some more feet, to a few fancy twists, to the muffler, then the tail pipe. I'm pretty sure I use the entire 180 bend out by the muffler, and a section of the 45 bend half way between the muffler and the cat.

My downpipe goes pretty far back.

This is all 3 inch. Smaller pipes could be done easier, and aluminized does last a very, very, very long time and welds very easily.

I tried to fit Y8S' 5x11x22 in there but couldn't figure it out :vash: Fortunately the 5x8x18 (canister size, not overall) with no resonator is relatively quiet.

Pics of my car, 5x8x11 magnaflow:
http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...strearview.jpg

http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics.../Exhausts1.jpg

Pics of friend's MSM, 4x9x11 magnaflow (he wanted his a little louder):
http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...smexhaust1.jpg

http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...smexhaust2.jpg

y8s 08-20-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 141764)
I tried to fit Y8S' 5x11x22 in there but couldn't figure it out :vash: Fortunately the 5x8x18 (canister size, not overall) with no resonator is relatively quiet.

that's a trade secret. fitting big pipes into tight places.

o.e.boost 08-20-2007 10:52 PM

im looking for something like that turbo tim...how much an exhaust system shipped to the west coast?

neogenesis2004 08-20-2007 10:59 PM

hmmm, this is making me think my 6x14 magnaflow might not be big enough to give me a quiet sound at cruise. Maybe I should pick up a resonator.

miatamania 08-20-2007 11:21 PM

resonator ftw. it did wonders for my exhaust leak proned NA car :)

akaryrye 08-21-2007 12:09 AM

For turbotim, since your pm box is full ...


I was wondering if I could buy a couple things off of you through shore ... I basically just need a few things for my exhaust im going to weld up in a few weeks. I will need two 3" 2 or 3 bolt flanges and a 2.5"-3" 2 bolt pattern with adjustable bolt spacing to mate up to my begi downpipe ... or if you know the bolt spacing, a matching flange would be just fine. Then I need a few weld on hangers. Also if it wouldnt be too expensive, a few non-mandrel bent 30-45* 3" bends to do the first part of the pipe (I bought a mandrel U bend to do the 90* turns, but thought it overkill for the smaller bends).

Also, i know it might be a long shot but I am also looking for a 2" 90* silicone coupler and some tbolt clamps.
sorry for using a thread for this, but at least it is relevant :D

Uncle Arthur 08-21-2007 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 141584)
Another good question, IMHO; how much did everyone spend on said exhausts?

That stainless system would have cost me in excess of $1100 AUD to have made in a shop. With a mate doing it I spent somewhere over $700 AUD.

TurboTim 08-21-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by o.e.boost (Post 141901)
im looking for something like that turbo tim...how much an exhaust system shipped to the west coast?

I do not have a Jig yet. I will though, the wife wants me to make one so I gotta do it. So...

About $900 to ship your car to the east coast, another ~$800 for the exhaust installed, and another $900 to ship it back to the west coast. :td:

TurboTim 08-21-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 141936)
For turbotim, since your pm box is full ...



sorry for using a thread for this, but at least it is relevant :D

PMs all deleted, so resend please.

akaryrye 08-24-2007 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 98413)
lets see... turbo back following the stock system looks like:

90° for the outlet (smaller diam + reducer)
90° for the bottom of the downpipe
15° for a kink at the tranny
6-8" of straight from there to the cat
18 inches of straight for the cat
6-8" of straight from there to the kink
another 15° for another kink half way back
6-8" of straight from the kink to the resonator
18 inches of straight for the resonator
a few more straight inches to the diff
about 45° and 8" for the kinks at the diff
90° to exit the diff space
180° U to turn around to go into the muffler
whatever you use for the muffler
and a 90° to exit the muffler
a shiny chrome tip the size of a grapefruit.

I think I used 3x 3" U bends, a 2-1/4 90° for the turbine outlet, a 2-1/4 to 3" reducer, a 3" 90° for the muffler outlet, a 3" cat, 3" "bullet race" resonator, 3" magnaflow muffler, and 3 feet of straight pipe (give or take). plus the tip. there's enough straight on the U bends to fill in the rest of the straight space but extra straight pipe is cheap and easier because it's not squashed from bending.

Damnit, your writeups are being so helpful for me today!


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