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Kelly 05-14-2007 03:43 PM

I have a couple plates laying around I don't need.

RusMan 05-14-2007 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Wideopentuning (Post 113158)
I have a couple plates laying around I don't need.

I need one, want to hook a bratha up? I can pick it up from you for some $

Kelly 05-14-2007 03:48 PM

You can just have em. Come out and hang with Rob and I sometime.

y8s 05-14-2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 113080)
who you callin cock suckers?

leave the EGR in place. it does more good than harm.

maybe you missed that.

RusMan 05-14-2007 03:55 PM

Flipside customs?

RusMan 05-14-2007 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 113182)
maybe you missed that.

It's easier to just block it then modify my manifold and make a new pipe. What good does it do exactly?

PaKMaN 05-14-2007 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Wideopentuning (Post 113158)
I have a couple plates laying around I don't need.

Sounds good... how do I go about getting these from you?


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 113182)
maybe you missed that.

No I didn't miss it.. I just don't think thats an option. I don't want to modify my HKS manifold.




Title change :hsugh:

Savington 05-14-2007 05:56 PM

I used a 7/8" open-ended wrench. It was a bitch and a half. :(

PaKMaN 05-14-2007 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 113283)
I used a 7/8" open-ended wrench. It was a bitch and a half. :(

Ya.. that thing didn't want to come off :(

y8s 05-14-2007 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by PaKMaN (Post 113217)
No I didn't miss it.. I just don't think thats an option. I don't want to modify my HKS manifold.

So does the HKS not have the fitting? Cuz I didn't see that part.


Anyway, just find some 1/8" aluminum plate and cut it sorta the shape of the other end (flange) and drill the two holes and bam you're done.
Matt

guitarrc6 05-14-2007 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by RusMan (Post 113188)
It's easier to just block it then modify my manifold and make a new pipe. What good does it do exactly?

the EGR exhaust gas recirculation does exactaly that, pumps exhaust gas into your intake for better emmisions. it also has some sort of cooling affect to the cylinder also if i remember correctly. but i would assume this is marginal because race cars don't have one :) and its bad for performance cause you are pumping in already burnt air into the intake, so you are displacing good air with bad air= less power. correct me if i'm wrong here.

matttheniceguy 05-14-2007 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by guitarrc6 (Post 113302)
the EGR exhaust gas recirculation does exactaly that, pumps exhaust gas into your intake for better emmisions. it also has some sort of cooling affect to the cylinder also if i remember correctly. but i would assume this is marginal because race cars don't have one :) and its bad for performance cause you are pumping in already burnt air into the intake, so you are displacing good air with bad air= less power. correct me if i'm wrong here.

A properly set up EGR won't affect power, because it will be closed when you step on it.

The EGR reduces NOx emissions by reducing the combustion temperature when you are just putting around at part throttle. Burnt exhaust gases are introduced with the Air fuel charge, giving the charge the same energy (same amount of fuel and oxygen) wile increasing the mass of the charge. When the charge is ignited, there is more mass, so it does not heat up as much. High combustion temperatures cause more NOx to be formed. It also has a positive effect on fuel economy. The EGR reduces the vacuum of the cylinder under part throttle, reducing some parasitic loss and increasing efficiency.

When you get on the throttle, the EGR should close and everything will be just like normal.

guitarrc6 05-15-2007 07:46 PM

i'm not saying that you are wrong, but if you are introducing burnt gasses into the engine then it has to displace something. There just isn't suddenly more room to fit them in. reducing the NOX emissions i can believe though. i also heard that if you did a water injection setup, post cat, and pissed in the container instead of filling it with water it would lower NOX emissions. no joke i read an article that they wanted to start putting these systems on cars because they could run them leaner, but they are afraid that on one would fill up their tank.....i don't see why, everyone's gotta pee at some point :)


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