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Old 03-03-2013, 08:23 PM   #41
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The timing belt on the miata was my first stab at anything of the sort.

Basic mechanical knowledge and a toolbox, along with the help of this forum and you can do just about anything to these cars.

Do yourself a favor though. Don't piece together a DIY kit for the IC pipes. Just call FM and order the silicone kit and be done with it. Just my knowing from experience.

Good luck!
Just curious... why not piece together a kit? I bought a universal piping kit on E-Bay... is it just a lot harder to run the piping that way?
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:43 PM   #42
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Fewer couplers = more win.

Good guide on doing the clutch: Samnavy shows you how
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:47 PM   #43
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Fewer couplers = more win.

Good guide on doing the clutch: Samnavy shows you how


Makes sense... Thanks. Guess I'll use my Flea-Bay kit to start off and upgrade if I have problems lol
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:50 PM   #44
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It took me a couple of days to the dash and heater core, but I tend to plod along when I do these things to make sure I get it right the first time.
Based upon this unsolicited statement, I'm making a couple of predictions:

1. You're not going to have any problems whatsoever.
2. You're going to have a great setup.

Our first demand: Build thread with nice pictures.

At 53K and 14 years, you're due for a TB/WP. So, go right ahead. Reasonably priced kits are available on E-bay (members have had good experiences) or Rosenthal Mazda (a bit more, but you get OEM gaskets that are really nice).
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:06 PM   #45
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You can definitely to the timing belt and the water pump yourself.
Just pay attention to detail such as clean and true mating surfaces on joints, and proper torque on the bolts.

And, the three most important things you need to know about timing belt replacement on a Miata are as follows:







All in all:

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Old 03-03-2013, 09:12 PM   #46
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Thought I would share a few photos:

When I first bought it in 06 with 28k:



A couple of years later:



On the way home from Miatas at the Gap - 09



Today it looks essentially the same because I baby it too much! It's time to give it a turbo and see what it can do!
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:16 PM   #47
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Thought I would share a few photos:

When I first bought it in 06 with 28k:

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A couple of years later:

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On the way home from Miatas at the Gap - 09

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Today it looks essentially the same because I baby it too much! It's time to give it a turbo and see what it can do!
Can't see the pics..
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:19 PM   #48
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Do yourself a favor though. Don't piece together a DIY kit for the IC pipes. Just call FM and order the silicone kit and be done with it. Just my knowing from experience.
This is the first I heard of this. I went to the site and couldn't find it. I am about to get a new and much bigger intercooler for my MSM so I'm sure I'll need new intercooler pipes. Do you have a link or have any idea if this will work with an MSM turbo?
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This is the first I heard of this. I went to the site and couldn't find it. I am about to get a new and much bigger intercooler for my MSM so I'm sure I'll need new intercooler pipes. Do you have a link or have any idea if this will work with an MSM turbo?
I was actually curious myself and found their intercooler kit on their site but it was like $700... yikes! I'm sure if you sent them an e-mail they could give you the price of just the silicone pipes
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:32 PM   #50
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The silicone pipes and throttle body elbow were something like $400.

That may sound steep, but it's 100% worth it.

Mate them to your choice of IC from CXRacing and you'll be all set.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:39 PM   #51
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Sorry about that. I think you can see them now.
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Ah, Silver NB... the memories
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I was actually curious myself and found their intercooler kit on their site but it was like $700... yikes! I'm sure if you sent them an e-mail they could give you the price of just the silicone pipes
The silicone hot side won't fit perfectly - the Jpipe is clocked differently on the MSM vs a typical garret. The intercooler to the throttle body will be essentially the same on any NA/NB.
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I'm completely serious when I say this.

You'll have no problem doing a turbo install, clutch replacement, or timing belt if you did that with no problems. Pulling and replacing a dash is a way bigger pain in the *** compared to any of those.
Are NB dashes really that bad? I can have a dash out in half an hour without breaking the gauge hood on an NA, including pulling the seats out. I had the NA8 Dash out, wiring harness swapped, heat box removed, carpet removed, insulation added, and everything put back in with an NA6 dash in 4 hours if you dont count the time I had to go to the store to get the correct sized rivets for swapping the vin tag. Dashes are easy. Trying to get the long bolt out of the lower rear control arm is a nightmare.
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It was an NA (96) that I did the dash switch on. I cannot speak for the NB. All I can say is that it took me a long time to do my 96 including the heater core.

Here is what the Miata Haynes Repair Manual says about doing the timing chain and sprockets:
"The timing system is complex. Severe engine damage will occur if you make any mistakes. Do not attempt this procedure unless you are highly experienced with this type of repair. If you are at all unsure of your abilities, consult an expert."

Okay, now I'm having doubts again about doing the timing belt myself.
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That warning is in every car's. On our cars it doesnt matter how wrongly you install the belt you wont do any serious damage.
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I was actually curious myself and found their intercooler kit on their site but it was like $700... yikes! I'm sure if you sent them an e-mail they could give you the price of just the silicone pipes
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The silicone pipes and throttle body elbow were something like $400.

That may sound steep, but it's 100% worth it.

Mate them to your choice of IC from CXRacing and you'll be all set.
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The silicone hot side won't fit perfectly - the Jpipe is clocked differently on the MSM vs a typical garret. The intercooler to the throttle body will be essentially the same on any NA/NB.
Watch out, we're talking about 2 different things here... what you want is the silicone sections for the FMII intercooler kit. The FMII silicone is NOT on their site, you need to call them up and order the parts individually. The MSM kit is what's on their site. It will only work on the MSM.

I've got the coldside pipe, it fits "meh" on my 2000, but this is due to the goofy lines for the AC. If I had no AC, there would be no problem. It seems to work fine on every other application. Can you do it cheaper with individual parts from somewhere like siliconeintakes? Sure, but the FM parts eliminate probably a dozen failure points and clamps. That's all kinds of win, if you are willing to pay for the premium.
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Okay, now I'm having doubts again about doing the timing belt myself.
What?! Are you going to trust a Haynes "manual" or a collection of random anonymous homo jackasses on a gay car forum?

Also, Miata uses a timing belt, not chain. In my book, we're already one up on the book
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Are NB dashes really that bad? I can have a dash out in half an hour without breaking the gauge hood on an NA, including pulling the seats out. I had the NA8 Dash out, wiring harness swapped, heat box removed, carpet removed, insulation added, and everything put back in with an NA6 dash in 4 hours if you dont count the time I had to go to the store to get the correct sized rivets for swapping the vin tag. Dashes are easy. Trying to get the long bolt out of the lower rear control arm is a nightmare.
Are timing belt installs really that bad?
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Are timing belt installs really that bad?
Its harder to do with one person than a dash if you dont have a cam tool I guess.
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