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Old 10-16-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX View Post
Same head flange between the 2.0 and 2.5 correct?? Also, I hear the 2.5 heads when massaged slightly can yield some proper results??
I would love to get my hands on one of the MZR-R engines. With Indy lights kicking the bucket, I wonder how long before they pop up?? Anyways.....
I've read that the 2.0L cams and heads on a 2.5L block was the way to go for max N/A power. I didn't know Indy Lights used the MZR, might be worth looking for cams and heads from those cars too...

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Old 10-17-2018, 03:12 PM
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AFAIK Reverant has a PnP MS3 for NC in the works.
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In my case, PNP is not the issue. Retaining emissions control via the stock ECU is.
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
Have you driven one? 160hp is plenty to cruise around on road trips and hwys.

nc's are not a popular platform to turbo, a few builds exist mostly on miata.net and most use fab9 tuning stuff.
As the prices drop, they will be.

The NC's are a way better platform to boost than our cars for the following reasons:

- 09+ comes with forged internals.
- Transmissions don't explode when you look at them
- Larger displacement engine makes for quicker spool and transient response
- Ability to flash stock ECU and have actual decent knock detection
- Strong diffs

Once they drop down in price even further I think they will replace the NA/NB as the "easy to turbo" Miata's.

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Old 10-18-2018, 03:37 PM
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The Enhanced MS3 for the NC has OBD-II support.
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The “into to megasquirt thread” mentions that the MS3 basic has 5 inputs with built in pull up resistors - and I was just wondering why it would have so many, while the MS3Pro PnP has just 2 (with no pull ups?)
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^ You have my attention
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Originally Posted by Reverant View Post
The Enhanced MS3 for the NC has OBD-II support.
which can plug in and pass inspection?
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Old 10-18-2018, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
which can plug in and pass inspection?
Pm me for more information.
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
which can plug in and pass inspection?
Doubtful. Unless MS wants an EPA raid and fines headed their way...
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Originally Posted by ChrisLol View Post
Doubtful. Unless MS wants an EPA raid and fines headed their way...
I dont think EPA has any reach in Greece
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
I dont think EPA has any reach in Greece
The EPA works in mysterious ways. If a third party is able to use a MS product to fool emissions readiness, EPA will place blame with MS for not locking the OBD-II protocol output down tightly enough.

Ask Edge. Ask Cobb. Ask Jeff Evans. Ask Bully Dog/SCT.
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Originally Posted by ChrisLol View Post
The EPA works in mysterious ways. If a third party is able to use a MS product to fool emissions readiness, EPA will place blame with MS for not locking the OBD-II protocol output down tightly enough.

Ask Edge. Ask Cobb. Ask Jeff Evans. Ask Bully Dog/SCT.
I'm trying to find the case of where a person or company was making a device specifically designed to shown emissions readiness (I think it was DSM's). Huge fines were levied on them when they were discovered.
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BullyDog just got pinched.

Rolling coal and those damn brodozzers.........The dumbest thing this side of eating tide pods.

P.S EPA compliance cost $$$$. It an be done, but unless you have the deals in place (history of OEMs) and the $$$ to sink, then yeah....
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The key difference is that the Enhanced MS3 fully implements the OBD-II stack. This means that readiness monitors are only set if there are no pending or active DTCs, as the Enhanced MS3 supports about 60 different DTCs, much like the stock ECU.
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