OMG going turbo no way!?!?!
Well after about 2 years i finally got a miata. Have viewed countless noob fails and read many threads hoping to avoid the staunch criticism of my fellow peers.
Anyways, i have a 90 and in the 4 weeks I've owned it i replaced all the gaskets and seals, along with the water pump, crank bolt, woodruff key, and pulley cog. Also all the fluids have been flushed and replaced. Now that all the maintenance is in order i am begging to piece together a kit based on the DIY tutorial and the many successful setups i have seen on this site. Brain Built MS Either 440cc - Blue Top rx7/305cc – LT Green Top supra injectors Sr20 2554 rebuilt turbo cx racing intercooler/pipes And other obvious odds and ends required (oil/water lines/ fittings/ Wide band) I know there are many good 1.6l manifolds out there with t2/t25/t28 flanges, but rather than wait around and hope to strike gold, i was wondering it there were any eBay cast manifolds that were outfitted with this flange. There are many t3 flange ones but that's to big for me. Regardless, i am looking to make upwards of of 200whp at most and feel that the 2554 will be able to give me above and beyond that in terms of Hp and give me the fast spooling and response that i am looking for. Mainly i want a setup that will give me a solid 175-200whp in a simplistic configuration that will allow me to beat the shit out of it. Also i am hoping someone would be able to comment on what would be a better solution for me, MS1 or MS2. Im not sure as to what the nitty gritty details are or what one would suffice for my type of application. Any thoughts or comments are welcome. Cliffs: I suck until further notice |
Did you miss the 42.6 million threads about cracking ebay manifolds?
You've got somewhat of a good start, but you've still got a LOT of reading to do. Your questions have been answered multiple times around here. |
Originally Posted by MartinezA92
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Did you miss the 42.6 million threads about cracking ebay manifolds?
You've got somewhat of a good start, but you've still got a LOT of reading to do. Your questions have been answered multiple times around here. Furthermore, i have not come across threads on ebay t2 cast manifolds, nor what MS system is good for X applications. Im kinda upset, i was expecting more of a shit fest haha. Oh well i guess my dreams of being shit on in my DIY thread by brain, hustler, or 18psi will never be satiated.... But forreals, eBay cast t2 flange manifolds? |
MS is really dependent on what you feel like dealing with. Some of us, like myself, are stuck in the stone age with MS-I. Some of us are using MS3 like a bauce. Read up on what the differences are and decide for yourself.
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You read and searched, used proper grammar and sentence structure, why should we yell.
The taco taco cast Manu is good, but you have to match the turbo, not sure what foot print it is, check the eBay ads. Ms-1 isnt exactly the stone age, but you don't get all the gizmos like sequential ignition and spark (which doesnt exist with the stock non-Cali ecu), and vvt control. Nothing you NEED on an early 1.6. Only good thing you really could use is the higher res tables, which are 16x16 opposed to 12x12. Although after 1.5 years of MS1, my 12x12 tables are far from optimized. |
hows a T3 flange manifold too big for you?
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 749444)
The taco taco cast Manu is good, but you have to match the turbo, not sure what foot print it is, check the eBay ads.
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Well - my taco cast T3 cracked after about a year of hard track-only abuse, but it was cheap. IF you go that way, tap and heli-coil the T3 flange 1st if you're gonna use bolts to mount the turbo - but you're better off using studs. In my case, I 'felt' like that was going to happen b/c as I torqued the turbo down, it seemed the manifold threads were soft. And sure enough, after about 5 laps my turbo practically fell off the manifold as the flange threads stripped out... no probs what-so-ever since tapping and helicoiling it, G8 bolts with nordlocks.
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thanks for the link,
i got what you want buddy, and even more, check your PM. |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 749444)
You read and searched, used proper grammar and sentence structure, why should we yell.
The taco taco cast Manu is good, but you have to match the turbo, not sure what foot print it is, check the eBay ads. Ms-1 isnt exactly the stone age, but you don't get all the gizmos like sequential ignition and spark (which doesnt exist with the stock non-Cali ecu), and vvt control. Nothing you NEED on an early 1.6. Only good thing you really could use is the higher res tables, which are 16x16 opposed to 12x12. Although after 1.5 years of MS1, my 12x12 tables are far from optimized.
Originally Posted by Techsalvager
(Post 749454)
hows a T3 flange manifold too big for you?
Originally Posted by kaboshe
(Post 749469)
thanks for the link,
i got what you want buddy, and even more, check your PM. |
Also, i have a 2005 Nissan Sentra Se-r Spec-v and have a set of left over stock injectors i took out. If i am correct they are 310cc, and noticed that it was one of techsalvagers goals to get them in his car, are they applicable? If so i will be good to go on injectors.
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those injectors are great if you want 175whp
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310 cc is for pussy fagots
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the sentra ser specV injectors can be modded to flow 710cc
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Originally Posted by Shane
(Post 749781)
I say that meaning i don't want a turbo that big. From what i have seen the majority of the turbos that come in the t3 footprint are too big to have super responsive qualities and also lack the insane spool that the 2554/2560 have to offer.
or the turbo braineack has. |
Originally Posted by Techsalvager
(Post 749807)
the sentra ser specV injectors can be modded to flow 710cc
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Originally Posted by PatrickB
(Post 749800)
those injectors are great if you want 175whp
Originally Posted by 18psi
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310 cc is for pussy fagots
Originally Posted by Techsalvager
(Post 749807)
the sentra ser specV injectors can be modded to flow 710cc
Originally Posted by Techsalvager
(Post 749808)
T3 60 like mine
or the turbo braineack has. What turbo is Braineack using? Also Brain, how much for a MS1 built by yourself?
Originally Posted by PatrickB
(Post 749885)
No thanks ok nodded injectors. You could just buy a 460 set for like 75-100z
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if spool data is so important vs power production here
1.6 t3 60 vs a 1.8 gt2554 https://www.miataturbo.net/showpost....20&postcount=1 https://www.miataturbo.net/showpost....44&postcount=4 both using same manifold from begi and you can see their mods at the times, looks like there is really no difference in spool time. If anything looks like the T3 60 there spools into boost sooner. 2554 went from 1750 to 3600 vs 2200 to 3700 |
Originally Posted by Shane
(Post 750052)
A friend has a set of RC 500cc injectors he was going to use for his s14 KA that hes going to give me for 80 so i suppose i solved the injector issue.
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