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lieske 05-25-2013 02:45 PM

people running 14bs
 
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ive been searching and cant seem to find pictures of 14b set ups.
i plan on running one eventually and just want to see some pics of other members set ups. like their manifold, water lines, the J pipe coming off the turbo, etc..

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1369507528

Sw4y1313 05-25-2013 02:53 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing some other setups as well. I have a great condition 14b sitting here waiting to go on something.

Since there are no TD05 exhaust flanged turbo manifolds out(besides that ebay POS) I figured I would use an adapter with a t3 manifold, or weld my own manifold, but I don't have time for that anymore.

Yes... This is my first post, but I have to build my post count somewhere right?

18psi 05-25-2013 03:00 PM

Its like a convention of the n00b retards in here

lieske 05-25-2013 03:09 PM

why? cause im asking for pics?

Joe Perez 05-25-2013 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by lieske (Post 1015286)
why? cause im asking for pics?

When I first read this thread, I thought you were hoping to find information about how to swap a Toyota 3.7 liter diesel truck engine that makes 98 hp into a Miata.

That thought actually occurred to be BEFORE the idea that you might be asking about the sleeve-bearing Mitsubishi TD05H-14B turbo which is best known for being removed and thrown away by the folks on whose vehicles it came as stock.

lieske 05-25-2013 03:28 PM

well i did post this it the DIY turbo discussion.
ive had plenty experience with those turbos, i just want to see how others have theirs set up.
all i asked was for some pictures of people set ups, not for people to come here and talk shit.

18psi 05-25-2013 03:38 PM

Almost no one here runs those turbos. That should answer your question.

The ones that do, or the ones that build their setups around a turbo (and a very un-impressive one at that) are generally regarded as silly and n00bish.

supercooper 05-25-2013 03:41 PM

Those of us who DO run that turbo, hate it... reliability is the only plus to this turbo... it is reliably slow...

lieske 05-25-2013 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1015295)
Almost no one here runs those turbos. That should answer your question.

The ones that do, or the ones that build their setups around a turbo (and a very un-impressive one at that) are generally regarded as silly and n00bish.

fair enough. but you could have just said that hardly anybody runs them.
i think they are a great little turbo, very inexpensive too. plus, i already have one back home thats damn near brand new waiting for me.
Thats why i want to run one.

supercooper 05-25-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by lieske (Post 1015297)
fair enough. but you could have just said that hardly anybody runs them.
i think they are a great little turbo, very inexpensive too. plus, i already have one back home thats damn near brand new waiting for me.
Thats why i want to run one.

they are inexpensive, because the market is flooded with them, due to people upgrading to better turbos...
they are very reliable turbos... but, if you go that route, dont expect too much out of it...
and i dont mean boost.. they pump enough... just not efficiently... and they have a strangely large amount of lag, especially considering how small they are...

lieske 05-25-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by supercooper (Post 1015299)
they are inexpensive, because the market is flooded with them, due to people upgrading to better turbos...
they are very reliable turbos... but, if you go that route, dont expect too much out of it...
and i dont mean boost.. they pump enough... just not efficiently... and they have a strangely large amount of lag, especially considering how small they are...

well who knows, i may change my mind in the future. Im in no hurry to turbo my miata.
they are plenty efficient at low boost. im not looking to go crazy and have upwards of 200 hp.
full spool at 3200 RPMs is fine with me.

18psi 05-25-2013 04:52 PM

see that's the big reason the rule of "don't build around a turbo" is a smart one. by the time you're done tailoring everything else to "work" with a turbo that is not common or widely supported for your specific application, you realize how much easier and simpler (and often more rewarding) it would have been to just start with a commonly used turbo/setup.

lieske 05-25-2013 05:24 PM

i was also thinking about a t28 as well. i may end up going that. unsure yet.
like i said im in no hurry to boost the miata, so we will see in time.

Joe Perez 05-25-2013 05:57 PM

The thing that's hard for most people to grasp, and which took me a long time to wrap my head around, is that despite all of the different names and acronyms and compressor maps and gobbledygook, there are actually only two different models of turbocharger in the entire world; the right one, and the wrong one. Everything else is just private-labeling.

krissetsfire 05-25-2013 06:54 PM

if we just said nobody runs them then we would have nothing to make fun of.

and Joe. I didn't think of the Toyota diesel but figured some noob mistakenly typo'ed 14b instead of 13b. i actually compared the subject line to the first sentence before i read the rest of the content.

ebay turbos and used 2560's all over da place dawg.

Leafy 05-25-2013 10:45 PM

Isn't that turbo just a compressor wheel and compressor housing away from being an awesome turbo? IE making it into a Td05-16G. No need to balance it, I dont believe many f the turbo's back then were extra balanced when they were new.

Pen2_the_penguin 05-25-2013 11:04 PM

Just get another turbo (like a SR20 T25)

FRT_Fun 05-25-2013 11:30 PM

I thought it read 14lbs, as in boost. Was disappointed.

Pen2_the_penguin 05-25-2013 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 1015385)
I thought it read 14lbs, as in boost. Was disappointed.

Thats what I thought as well.

matthewdesigns 05-26-2013 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by lieske (Post 1015279)
ive been searching and cant seem to find pictures of 14b set ups.
i plan on running one eventually and just want to see some pics of other members set ups. like their manifold, water lines, the J pipe coming off the turbo, etc..

I started out with a TD05H 16G and the only thing out there for a manifold is the eBay crap. Now I have about $1.30 in scrap metal in the corner of the garage, and a GReddy kit on the car.

If you can't weld, do yourself a favor and pick up a used Garrett footprint mani and turbo. That's the most popular (read: best aftermarket support) turbo for Miatas and the easiest to work around.

If you insist on using the 14b, run the factory hard water lines pointed towards the front of the car, and have a 90* elbow welded to the compressor outlet.


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