First Miata, First problem
10-25-2021, 02:48 PM
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First Miata, First problem
This past month I purchased my first Miata, a boosted 1997 M-Edition. I threw a rod on my way home due to being on 14lbs on E85 on stock internals. So I obviously have some questions. I found a new motor with a machined block with stock internals, so one of my questions is. Do I purchase this motor and leave it stock and turn the boost down? Or do I find myself a bare block and get forged internals so I can keep the boost turned up? I don't need to have the fastest car ever, but I do want to have some fun. My second question is if I keep stock internals what is a safe amount of boost to run? If anyone wants or needs specs of the car to help me I would be more than happy to provide them.
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10-25-2021, 03:14 PM
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For a stock Miata motor, the rule of thumb is to keep it under 250whp.
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10-25-2021, 03:38 PM
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First off, find out what turbo your set up is using. The "amount of boost" is irrelevant until you know what turbo you're running. For example 10psi on a GT2560R is going to make a different amount of horsepower than 10psi on a GT3582R.
For a stock Miata motor, the rule of thumb is to keep it under 250whp.
For a stock Miata motor, the rule of thumb is to keep it under 250whp.
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10-25-2021, 03:57 PM
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Then to answer your original question, it all just comes down to how much you're wanting to spend and what your ultimate power goals are. I'm not the most experienced, since I've yet to travel down this path.
My understanding is that one of the cheaper options is a Rods Only build (OEM pistons + forged rods of your choice + a few misc upgrades). From everything I've heard is that once you are opting to go up to and beyond 300whp is when it gets very expensive.
My understanding is that one of the cheaper options is a Rods Only build (OEM pistons + forged rods of your choice + a few misc upgrades). From everything I've heard is that once you are opting to go up to and beyond 300whp is when it gets very expensive.
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10-25-2021, 07:14 PM
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How much boost do you want? I know 'more' is the usual answer, but unless you are hunting big hp/ seriously tracking the car, a stock block will provide good fun on the street, and low level track duty.
The key is the tune, as OG says. I assume you are running an aftermarket ECU, who is going to tune it? If you are not going to DIY tune based on info and advice here, does the person tuning it know both your ECU and BP motors?
In the absence of anything indicating the contrary, my first piece of advice would be to find another tuner, because at that power level an otherwise healthy BP should be OK. It suggests that the tune was what killed the engine. Other possibilities exist, but pending other information that would be my starting point.
The key is the tune, as OG says. I assume you are running an aftermarket ECU, who is going to tune it? If you are not going to DIY tune based on info and advice here, does the person tuning it know both your ECU and BP motors?
In the absence of anything indicating the contrary, my first piece of advice would be to find another tuner, because at that power level an otherwise healthy BP should be OK. It suggests that the tune was what killed the engine. Other possibilities exist, but pending other information that would be my starting point.
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10-25-2021, 07:58 PM
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How much boost do you want? I know 'more' is the usual answer, but unless you are hunting big hp/ seriously tracking the car, a stock block will provide good fun on the street, and low level track duty.
The key is the tune, as OG says. I assume you are running an aftermarket ECU, who is going to tune it? If you are not going to DIY tune based on info and advice here, does the person tuning it know both your ECU and BP motors?
In the absence of anything indicating the contrary, my first piece of advice would be to find another tuner, because at that power level an otherwise healthy BP should be OK. It suggests that the tune was what killed the engine. Other possibilities exist, but pending other information that would be my starting point.
The key is the tune, as OG says. I assume you are running an aftermarket ECU, who is going to tune it? If you are not going to DIY tune based on info and advice here, does the person tuning it know both your ECU and BP motors?
In the absence of anything indicating the contrary, my first piece of advice would be to find another tuner, because at that power level an otherwise healthy BP should be OK. It suggests that the tune was what killed the engine. Other possibilities exist, but pending other information that would be my starting point.
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10-25-2021, 11:17 PM
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OK, can you post your tune here, and I am sure someone will run their eye over it (not me, I don't know one end of a tune from the other LOL). That should identify any tuning issues, and if nothing serious you can safely proceed. Any logs from the blowup? They might show something too ... ?
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OK, can you post your tune here, and I am sure someone will run their eye over it (not me, I don't know one end of a tune from the other LOL). That should identify any tuning issues, and if nothing serious you can safely proceed. Any logs from the blowup? They might show something too ... ?
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