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Old 09-08-2008, 04:24 PM   #1
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Default SAFC or voodoo box on my 99

Been searching all morning, so please if you know of a thread send me the link. I have a 99 which has a voodoo box and is running fine, but I am getting a Apexi SAFC for cheap today, and I am wondering which is better? I have read all the threads, but mostly they are all for NAs. Any suggestions are fine...and don't tell me to MS, because I am currently building a MS2 in my downtime. Just wondering if it would be worth the time to swap out the voodoo box for the SAFC. Thanks
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Sodomizing yourself with with a piledriver and 16 feet of curare-tipped wrought-iron fence and no lubricant is considerably better than an SAFC. A Voodoo box is better than that, though only by a small margin.

Rather than telling you to MS, let me ask you a question- since you are already building an MS2, why are you concering yourself with such trivial things?

Re: answering your original question- it comes down to the method of operation. The SAFC reduces your MAF signal, and thus permits you to run slightly larger than stock injectors. The Voodoo lengthens injector pulses, thus increasing fuel flow out of the stock injectors. So the SAFC is relatively useless in a forced-induction application without also installing larger injectors.
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Sodomizing yourself with with a piledriver and 16 feet of curare-tipped wrought-iron fence and no lubricant is better than an SAFC. A Voodoo box is better than that, though only by a small margin.
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Rather than telling you to MS, let me ask you a question- since you are already building an MS2, why the hell are you wasting time and money on thes trivial bandaids?
Basically getting it for free from a co-worker who owes me a favor...if nothing else I will resell it. I was building a MSII that failed dramatically with trying to use a CAS with it a few months back and gave up on it. I have been running the Voodoo box for nearly 6 months on a daily driven car and have had no problems w/& without the WI.
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Re: answering your original question- it comes down to the method of operation. The SAFC reduces your MAF signal, and thus permits you to run slightly larger than stock injectors. The Voodoo lengthens injector pulses, thus increasing fuel flow out of the stock injectors. So the SAFC is relatively useless in a forced-induction application without also installing larger injectors.
I do have some 305's that are just sitting, but from what you said before plus the fact that the VB has a build in rear o2 stim...I believe I should stick with the VB. It works fine for up to 8 psi and delivers a good amount of power for my purposes.
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Sell the SAFC to someone with a DSM or Honda.
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Sell the SAFC to someone with a DSM or Honda.
That is what I planning on doing tonight
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LOL sold it
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LOL sold it
Nice.

I have some bandaids I should sell for beer money. A few SAFCs, Jacobs BTM, Cartech FMU...
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Nice.

I have some bandaids I should sell for beer money. A few SAFCs, Jacobs BTM, Cartech FMU...
Sounds like an awesome idea...bandaids for booze
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Hell, that's how most of my friends get me to work on their cars.

... That makes me sound like a bit of an alcoholic, doesn't it.
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