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18psi 04-01-2010 10:24 AM

In my opinion its either this:


Originally Posted by stranges12712 (Post 548278)
Time to rip apart the motor and build her up :)


or this:



Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548295)
Tell us about the .035" restrictor on the turbo oil feed.

Unfortunately I am leaning more toward scenario #1. Your timing map is fucking AGGRESSIVE. You are on stock engine. To be honest I was shocked when you posted your maps/results. I thought: "its only a matter of time".

Cococarbine3 04-01-2010 10:37 AM

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Wow, that first post is exactly word for word the same problems I am having right now. My current solution is:
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...and to replace valve seals, headgasket, and rings. I just don't understand how this happens all of a sudden. That sucks dude, I know exactly how you feel

Head gasket repair (AGAIN) - MX-5 Miata Forum

Have you checked your plugs to determine which cylinders are leaking oil? Also I can't find your spark map...

18psi 04-01-2010 11:02 AM

if you're going to tear it apart. DO IT RIGHT and build it broham:)

Braineack 04-01-2010 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 548249)
lol

In regards to my ign table?


it is what it is.

hustler 04-01-2010 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 548590)
Chaning the oil AFAIK is going to affect viscosity a tiny bit. Dirty stuff will be more 'gloopy'. That a technical term you assholes, so lay off ;)

The thinner new oil might be going past turbo seals/ring/valve seals more. If I knew any real specific shit about restrictors I would probably be saying +1 to the restrictor idea, but I dont so I wont. But it might be consistent with the fact that changing the oil affects it so much.

And I guess I say this in every damned thread, but that does not mean I am wrong. Comp test. At least then you have the peace of mind of knowing your rings are not shot.

You're wrong. Changing to a thicker oil never has or will stop leaks, that's not how it works.

gospeed81 04-01-2010 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 548649)
it is what it is.

What EEZ IT, man?

hustler 04-01-2010 11:09 AM

Link to spark table?

A quick look at the pistons will tell you if the motor is dead or if its the turbo. I suggest a bore-scope with lots of resolution.

Braineack 04-01-2010 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548657)
Link to spark table?


https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...3-igntable.jpg

chriscar 04-01-2010 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548657)
Link to spark table?

A quick look at the pistons will tell you if the motor is dead or if its the turbo. I suggest a bore-scope with lots of resolution.

You typed lubrication first, didn't you?

C

hustler 04-01-2010 11:19 AM

the 35* shit is a little wack, but this is mine at 8.6:1 4*behind MBT (no detonation limit anywhere)
http://i33.tinypic.com/1zaydu.jpg
I've never tuned a 1.6 or seen a spark table from a respectable individual, but I don't think his spark table is unsafe. Where are his det-cans?

hustler 04-01-2010 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by chriscar (Post 548666)
You typed lubrication first, didn't you?

C

I let biology produce the lubricant.

gospeed81 04-01-2010 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 548281)
Did you ever run det cans?


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548674)
Where are his det-cans?


What these playas said...

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-01-2010 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548674)
the 35* shit is a little wack, but this is mine at 8.6:1 4*behind MBT (no detonation limit anywhere)
http://i33.tinypic.com/1zaydu.jpg
I've never tuned a 1.6 or seen a spark table from a respectable individual, but I don't think his spark table is unsafe. Where are his det-cans?

At 9.4:1cr on pump gas, I'd call that a bit unsafe.

Braineack 04-01-2010 11:25 AM

Vash is making over 250rwhp, running 20* of spark on his stock 1.6L at +12psi. I suggested this day would come, but I was shrugged off. "It is what it is" what does the :brain: know? who am I to know?

gospeed81 04-01-2010 11:26 AM

Also consider that making the same amount of power on a 1.6L requires higher cylinder pressures than a 1.8L, making the knock threshold lower.

hustler 04-01-2010 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 548680)
At 9.4:1cr on pump gas, I'd call that a bit unsafe.

Is his car 9.4:1 or 9.0?


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 548682)
Vash is making over 250rwhp, running 20* of spark on his stock 1.6L at +12psi. I suggested this day would come, but I was shrugged off. "It is what it is" what does the :brain: know? who am I to know?

Playschool Dynojet or a proper adult dyno? Tone down your disrespect.


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 548684)
Also consider that making the same amount of power on a 1.6L requires higher cylinder pressures than a 1.8L, making the knock threshold lower.

I stand corrected. However smaller cylinder bores allow for more spark advance due to some weird volumetric math shit that I don't understand but that's the logic behind motorcycles running 15:1 compression ratios with 30* of advance at 100kpa...but I bet piston speed has something to do with that too.

18psi 04-01-2010 11:32 AM

You mofo's have some crazy fucking ignition maps. Holy shit:eek5:
20* at peak boost? 34+ in various other areas? WOWW

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-01-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 548688)
Is his car 9.4:1 or 9.0?

If its a stock 1.6 from a manual transmission car -> 9.4:1

hustler 04-01-2010 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 548689)
You mofo's have some crazy fucking ignition maps. Holy shit:eek5:
20* at peak boost? 34+ in various other areas? WOWW

24* at 4500rpm/peak torque/12psi. I've had 28* there with no detonation

hustler 04-01-2010 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 548696)
If its a stock 1.6 from a manual transmission car -> 9.4:1

oh yeah, he fucked up. Better hope that timing light is really slow.


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