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looking to get some advice on ways to fabricate a downpipe from my T25 turbo on a NB 1.6 itís at a angle here in the U.K. theres isnít many options online to purchase one.

Forgive itís all eBay rubbish but my turbo and manifold cost me £160 so couldnít say no




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Honestly, for the faff that looks like its going to bring to the table, i'd be sorely tempted to sack than manifold off back on ebay, and pickup something like the Kraken kit. Given you'll get the downpipe, mani, and all the fixtures/fittings to make it all "just work", seems the simpler solution.
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Good point this has crossed my mind but kind of gutted to loose out on £60 haha those kraken kits ainít cheap mind already ordered my oil and water lines 2. Trying to find a downpipe that fits a t25 and just cutting it at the wastegate then welding it at a angle. Cheers for the advice itís probably what I will and up doing.
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Good point this has crossed my mind but kind of gutted to loose out on £60 haha those kraken kits ainít cheap mind already ordered my oil and water lines 2. Trying to find a downpipe that fits a t25 and just cutting it at the wastegate then welding it at a angle. Cheers for the advice itís probably what I will and up doing.
From what I've seen, those ebay manifolds are cheap for a reason. If you think the Kraken Kit "aint cheap" then I don't think you should be turboing a car this point in your life. Kraken's Kit and MKTurbo's Kit are basically the cheapest you can reliably go.
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"a fool and his money are soon parted"
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I got the car for £600 its basically my play with car didnt want to put 3k into it or i would have just bought a car with a turbo running 2 cars at the min have 3 kids so have the family car and then this. Not saying the Kraken kits not worth buying just wanted to try and use this one i scored for. I aint exactly cheaping out im about to shell out $400 for the emanage harness guess its worth using that money towards this first.

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I had looked at the Kraken but the Wastegate connector looks really small like its half the size it should be

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What wastegate connector? The Kraken T25 kit doesn't have a mount for an external wastegate AFAIK?
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And for what it's worth, i paid £650 or so for my RS, and im about £2k into my boost build to "do it properly" as its a daily driver.

I'd also sack off the emanage personally and look at an MS3 or ME221, they are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the emange IMHO. I'm personally running an MSLabs MS3 Mini which has been an utter JOY to use.
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Default Yeah looking at it the emanage was a poor choice

Another good price for my emanage but with the harness issue I would have just got the MS issue is I have the emanage now gutted
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Originally Posted by bigdave1701 View Post
I got the car for £600 its basically my play with car didnt want to put 3k into it or i would have just bought a car with a turbo running 2 cars at the min have 3 kids so have the family car and then this. Not saying the Kraken kits not worth buying just wanted to try and use this one i scored for. I aint exactly cheaping out im about to shell out $400 for the emanage harness guess its worth using that money towards this first.

Cheers for the input guys
You still don't understand.
Smart people buy quality items because they retain value, because they continue to work. So at the end, you can get some of your money back.

Fools buy cheap unreliable junk, and when it breaks/fails, it requires constant upkeep which costs money and/or time, and in the end it's worthless.

No one will want your ebay junk or emanage junk when you realize how terrible it is and move on. And if your idea of "fun" is constantly fixing faulty parts, then by all means you're on the right path.
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Buy it right or buy it twice.
putting turbo parts on is only exciting once, replacing them after is just a hassle. If youre in the UK, i highly suggest Kraken parts due to quality and reasonable price (lead times can be something to shake a stick at, however)
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Originally Posted by bigdave1701 View Post
im slightly confused why I’m being made to feel shitty for trying to not divert food from my kids mouths into a turbo build I’m speaking with a guy about getting the kraken kit point taken it’s not good to use cheap parts but not exactly sure bullying is necessary to convince me my idea is a poor one. Genuinely feel like selling my car and just leaving the whole thing if this is what Miata is all about. Really really disappointed and honestly upset
wow.
So you're having trouble putting food on the table and think it's smart to waste money on cheap junk parts?

I feel sorry for your kids. They deserve better.
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From what I've seen, those ebay manifolds are cheap for a reason. If you think the Kraken Kit "aint cheap" then I don't think you should be turboing a car this point in your life. Kraken's Kit and MKTurbo's Kit are basically the cheapest you can reliably go.
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I got the car for £600 its basically my play with car didnt want to put 3k into it or i would have just bought a car with a turbo running 2 cars at the min have 3 kids so have the family car and then this. Not saying the Kraken kits not worth buying just wanted to try and use this one i scored for. I aint exactly cheaping out im about to shell out $400 for the emanage harness guess its worth using that money towards this first.

Cheers for the input guys
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You still don't understand.
Smart people buy quality items because they retain value, because they continue to work. So at the end, you can get some of your money back.

Fools buy cheap unreliable junk, and when it breaks/fails, it requires constant upkeep which costs money and/or time, and in the end it's worthless.

No one will want your ebay junk or emanage junk when you realize how terrible it is and move on. And if your idea of "fun" is constantly fixing faulty parts, then by all means you're on the right path.


In all honest opinion... Staph and drop everything that you're doing. AND DO IT RIGHT, or you're going to have a bad time. Cut your losses with the junk already purchased and start over.

But, if this is just a tinker toy for learning the hard way then have at it. In the end you will end up spending more money at this rate for sub par results.

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im slightly confused why I’m being made to feel shitty for trying to not divert food from my kids mouths into a turbo build I’m speaking with a guy about getting the kraken kit point taken it’s not good to use cheap parts but not exactly sure bullying is necessary to convince me my idea is a poor one. Genuinely feel like selling my car and just leaving the whole thing if this is what Miata is all about. Really really disappointed and honestly upset
If this is the case and you still want to pursue building up a turbo miata, slow down and take your time with higher quality parts. Grabbing whatever comes your way shows no thought in planning or research into what you're buying. Heed the warnings and take note, not the first rodeo for the majority of users on this site.
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Wow pretty shocked if Iím totally honest thank you
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Iím defo hearing the voice of reason in regards to my build not sure about all the voices in my head right now but defo feel like Iím going to go for the kraken
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Wow pretty shocked if I’m totally honest thank you
So are we.
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I’m defo hearing the voice of reason in regards to my build not sure about all the voices in my head right now but defo feel like I’m going to go for the kraken
So are you shocked and appalled or actually starting to see that what we're saying is actually helpful?
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im slightly confused why Iím being made to feel shitty for trying to not divert food from my kids mouths into a turbo build
Since you seem to be somewhat attached to your kids, or at least concerned for their well-being, perhaps you could divert food from the mouths of other peoples' children?

Granted, the laws here get a bit cumbersome, but it seems preferable to buying a manifold that's just going to crack in a few months.
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