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Hi Im Simon 12-22-2008 10:52 PM

Turbo Heat Ranges?
 
Was at the track this past weekend. After a session i did some checking of temps in the engine bay. I'm getting some really high numbers for the turbine.

Turbo turbine housing - 2000 degrees F

Is this normal?
I was thinking this is a bit unsafe. Say if the oil return hose were to burst or something and hit the turbo, instant fire!

Hi Im Simon 12-22-2008 10:56 PM

Forgot to mention turbo setup.

It is the turbo from the Greddy kit, but I only have the turbo. Apexi Intercooler /w custom end tanks, ARC BOV, custom intercooler piping. Running a fairly big Setrab oil cooler too. I think the oil temps were a bit low, due to the extremely cold weather, around 160 F. Running 10w30 Mobile One oil.

Water Temps were around 180 F, but for those who dont know, the TD04 is only oil cool.

arga 12-22-2008 10:59 PM

Hopefully one of the experts can comment but I believe normal peak power exhaust temperatures are about 1650 degrees F. So, yes, that does sound high.

Hi Im Simon 12-22-2008 11:11 PM

but what would cause that. i can't think a single thing that i'm missing. my IC is fairly big too, proper oil cooling.

Forgot to mention, boosting roughly 12psi.

EGT roughly 1600-1700 F
AFR is pretty rich too, but completely safe. Probably 9.5 AFR at 12 psi

Savington 12-22-2008 11:18 PM

1. I'd love to hear what you're using to measure temperatures in the 2000 degree range. The best automotive pyrometers out there max out at that, and I doubt you held a pyrometer on top of your compressor housing long enough to get that reading.

2. 9.5:1 AFRs are not safe. You're washing your cylinder walls down with fuel, which corrupts the oil and causes spun main bearings. Learn to tune your car, or hire someone who knows how.

edit: What the fuck do you mean by "probably" 9.5:1? Do you have a wideband or are you guessing?

Hi Im Simon 12-22-2008 11:29 PM

1. im reffering to the outside compressor housing temperature. i'm using one of those Infared temperature guns.

2. Funny part is, this was after tuned. the tuner fucked up. I'm going to another tuner next month. didnt have time to get it tuned again before the event. I was assuming that as long as it's not too lean it was okay for the mean time.

i have a wideband, LC-1. wasn't data logging though.

arga 12-22-2008 11:34 PM

You do mean your turbine housing not your compressor housing right? Not trying to split hairs just making sure I understand.

Not sure how your compressor temp would be higher than your EGT. I'm going to agree w/ Savington and say its your instrumentation.

Hi Im Simon 12-22-2008 11:42 PM

woops yeah ment to say turbine, sorry.

i was using something like this to measure it
Craftsman Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer, High-Temperature, Laser-Directed - Model 42540 at Sears.com

i know its not 100% accurate, but even in the ballpark that's kinda high.

Aricjm15 12-23-2008 12:57 AM

Seems a tad off, although you are still about 800 degrees or so away from melting it.

Savington 12-23-2008 02:13 AM

Learn to fucking read.


Originally Posted by the site you fucking posted
Measures from -58 to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit


Hi Im Simon 12-23-2008 02:52 AM

dude, do you have a stick up your ass or what.

fuck man. i'm asking for help and your being a fucken asshole.

if you hate the world go cut yourself something don't vent on me.

and you fucken learn to read. I SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS MOTHERFUCKER!

why do you even bother posting if your not going to help.

akaryrye 12-23-2008 03:08 AM

lol i was thinking the same thing

hustler 12-23-2008 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon (Post 344655)
dude, do you have a stick up your ass or what.

fuck man. i'm asking for help and your being a fucken asshole.

if you hate the world go cut yourself something don't vent on me.

and you fucken learn to read. I SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS MOTHERFUCKER!

why do you even bother posting if your not going to help.

why don't you cry about it, in the corner, like an emo ------.




oh wait. :giggle:

SloS13 12-23-2008 08:51 AM

lol he said motherfucker.

cardriverx 12-23-2008 10:43 AM

how bout this, what is the diameter of your downpipe, and do you have a cat?

Braineack 12-23-2008 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon (Post 344609)
Turbo turbine housing - 2000 degrees F


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 344647)
Measures from -58 to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit


I'm with Sav.... :hustler: :confused:

Rafa 12-23-2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 344617)

2. 9.5:1 AFRs are not safe. You're washing your cylinder walls down with fuel, which corrupts the oil and causes spun main bearings. Learn to tune your car, or hire someone who knows how.

edit: What the fuck do you mean by "probably" 9.5:1? Do you have a wideband or are you guessing?

Listen Simon; get past Savington's poor choice of words and fix those AFRs asap!

What EMS are you using?

Do some street tuning as soon as you can. Take those AFRs to between 11.5 and 12.0.

His explanation is solid.

BTW, please post your location below your Avatar. This way we know if you have some other forum member close by.

BenR 12-23-2008 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon (Post 344615)
AFR is pretty rich too, but completely safe. Probably 9.5 AFR at 12 psi



You don't have any hesitation or bogging with that AFR?

Saml01 12-23-2008 11:38 AM

Must be that time of the month for Savington.

BenR 12-23-2008 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 344753)
Must be that time of the month for Savington.




I'd be grumpy too if I was a mod at m.net.


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