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kotomile 04-15-2009 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Wrecking_Crew (Post 396416)
lol, I take it you've never buried a crank before... And why would a couple vacuum actuated valves not make me want to toy with a seq setup?

1939 Nash, 4 bolt Boss, Offset ground turned under 4ma high nodge crank, shortened forged rods, forged flat tops, high eccentricity trymetal clevites, aussie 2v quench heads "port matched," machined canted pedestals comp screw in studs "by hand," comp guide plates, comp forged pushrods, harland sharp 1.6 ratio ex, 1.73 in, single groove stainless valves, dual v springs, 530l 280d comp cam, dual quad aussie 2v weind tram "circa 73 very rare" ARP this that and the other, list goes on and on. "8,000 redline 6L 11.7:1 " I need a taller cam but the 530 will hold me over for now. Oh, and then I drive that little miata every once in a while lmao

Buried a crank? And are you suggesting that because you have built one fast car, that this one will succeed the way you've explained?

Wrecking_Crew 04-15-2009 07:21 PM

lol
 
Hmmm, no not by any means, I just think its funny that a few people are up in arms over this. I've got a few parts and I'm going to have some fun toying with building a little turbo set up. I'm no master and I don't pretend to be, I would hope that you would interpret that I come from a world where we don't buy bolt ons unless we have to. Hand build most anything and enjoy it just like most people do. English wheel for the win, right up there with all the rest.

Also my rod isn't fast , its only around five or six hundred hp so its almost quick. I don't want to have to run alch or 130 ack, but I'm like the rest out there just having fun with a little roadster. Just seems like people want to flame every one else instead of giving constructive advice?

Burying a crank, "history lesson..." back in oh, well before we could buy headers they would bury the internals because constant temp stress relieves the metals. 9 months later your crank etc. is born to a happy family : )

The_Pipefather 04-15-2009 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Wrecking_Crew (Post 396416)
lol, I take it you've never buried a crank before... And why would a couple vacuum actuated valves not make me want to toy with a seq setup?

1939 Nash, 4 bolt Boss, Offset ground turned under 4ma high nodge crank, shortened forged rods, forged flat tops, high eccentricity trymetal clevites, aussie 2v quench heads "port matched," machined canted pedestals comp screw in studs "by hand," comp guide plates, comp forged pushrods, harland sharp 1.6 ratio ex, 1.73 in, single groove stainless valves, dual v springs, 530l 280d comp cam, dual quad aussie 2v weind tram "circa 73 very rare" ARP this that and the other, list goes on and on. "8,000 redline 6L 11.7:1 " I need a taller cam but the 530 will hold me over for now. Oh, and then I drive that little miata every once in a while lmao

Dude, get this. None of this is remotely relevant to what you're attempting.

As to my credentials, I doubt any of that is relevant either. Even though my profession is about as close to cars and racing as the average car enthusiast ever gets.

Wrecking_Crew 04-15-2009 07:25 PM

... Your joking right?

Wrecking_Crew 04-15-2009 08:37 PM

And tim's right I fail for going with harlands lol, nothing like the elchipo rockers. I need a roller cam too, but hey use what ya got! Also Tim, how did you go about doing your set up? Is it sequential, I rem the fist time I saw that vid, I was like sweeet.

zoomin 04-15-2009 08:43 PM

How about this, you post up once it is actually finished and have it running, otherwise you are just blowing smoke!!

Wrecking_Crew 04-15-2009 08:55 PM

Rodger Dodger ^_-

I'll run a new thread when I'm done with the manifold/turbos/bovs bolted on to my xtra head for mock up.

Still would like any input from Tim though considering hes done this successfully!

The_Pipefather 04-15-2009 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Wrecking_Crew (Post 396454)
... Your joking right?

:facepalm::youwish:

More power to you if you can pull this off. Common sense says you cant, cause I have a feeling you're actually a retarded teenager trying to act as if you've been doing this for years.

Wrecking_Crew 04-15-2009 11:45 PM

Looks like I hit a nerve? I guess you could say I've been building cars since I was a kid, so maybe around 15 or so years, you know drag racing, road racing, a little SCCA, some sport driving, maybe spending some time working on that old 9.3l 460 stroker, or that cute little tt 350z, I'd rather work on the 50 fleetline though, after all who doesn't love a mighty mouse ehh? "Turns around looks at full G-force fire suit hanging in closet..."

But seriously I'd love for you to explain to me, "in detail," how engine building has nothing to do with fabricating a little forced induction set up? Granted we are now straying from actually getting things done, gathering info, sharing ideas, and exp, to a flame/pissing contest? If it makes you feel a better go for it... I personally would you rather not waste my time :jerkit:

Miatamaniac92 04-16-2009 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 395943)
So true. But hey maybe this guy likes misery.

I have no idea what trollan is.

http://www.dvdbreakdown.com/pix/13_d...ges/willow.jpg

Crew, this isn't being flamed. More progress pics and less HD sticker pics will help your cause.

Chris

albumleaf 04-16-2009 02:03 AM

Put up or join Kurt Rohmer.

naarleven 04-16-2009 03:30 AM

Hay guise lets start a flame war lol

Pitt 04-16-2009 09:17 AM

They see me trollan...they hatin...

never heard anyone call it "trollan".

Love to see more pics of this build.

The_Pipefather 04-16-2009 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Wrecking_Crew (Post 396547)
Granted we are now straying from actually getting things done, gathering info, sharing ideas, and exp, to a flame/pissing contest?

I tried to share my ideas, look at my posts above on using the wastegate. But you apparently know everything about turbocharging since you built a 1939 Nash from the ground up. :noob:

EDIT: Werent you the one wanting to use an exhaust cutout for the same purpose? Posted on miata.net a while ago?

Vashthestampede 04-16-2009 09:59 AM

Damn guys, lighten up. This guy is obviously not one of the common noobs we get here. I say give the guy some credit and time to see what he comes up with.

Wreck, some of the guys on here are super insecure and need to e-thug to make it through the day. Dont let em get you!

Braineack 04-16-2009 10:27 AM

I thought this was a build thread :confused:

y8s 04-16-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 396642)
Damn guys, lighten up. This guy is obviously not one of the common noobs we get here. I say give the guy some credit and time to see what he comes up with.

Wreck, some of the guys on here are super insecure and need to e-thug to make it through the day. Dont let em get you!

credit market is dry. we need collateral.

Braineack 04-16-2009 10:29 AM

collateral damage? that movie made me laugh.

Wrecking_Crew 04-16-2009 11:32 AM

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lol, of course that was me, however I trashed that idea based on gear drive issues + parts are available right off a supra. And your idea was bad at all, but I'm not starting with sequential, I just tossed the idea out there for only cutting off part of the exhaust flow from the secondary to play around with building boost. There would be a limit however on how much based on the pressure in the charge pipe, so on. I haven't done the math on it yet so its still, "just an idea." After I get the mani tacked up on Saturday I'll post a couple more bits up, I am going to run the twin Greddy bov + an oil cooler in line to the oil feed for the turbos. I'm waiting on the oil filter bypass adapter from summit though, should ship by the first of the month, "out of stock for the lose."

The parts I was talking about earlier for the valving are the, Exhaust Gas Control Valve, "EGCV," and the Intake Air Control Valve, "IACV." Both of these are rather easy to source and are operated by vacuum actuators. It's actually kinda simple, check out the diagram.

TurboTim 04-16-2009 01:16 PM

And it's all controlled by some ECM. Go for it.



Originally Posted by Pitt (Post 396633)
They see me trollan...they hatin...

never heard anyone call it "trollan".

Love to see more pics of this build.

Thanks for the trollan definition!



Originally Posted by Wrecking_Crew (Post 396477)
And tim's right I fail for going with harlands lol, nothing like the elchipo rockers. I need a roller cam too, but hey use what ya got! Also Tim, how did you go about doing your set up? Is it sequential, I rem the fist time I saw that vid, I was like sweeet.

There are worse rockers than Harland's so don't sweat it. My twins are plumbed in parallel.


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