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Nagase 09-28-2011 04:34 AM

Weird question: Twin scroll rear mount turbo
 
This is not for a Miata.

I'm considering going with a rear mount turbo in another car I own. Is there any benefit to going twin scroll (dual exhaust) when the 'turbo header' is eight feet long?

Bond 09-28-2011 05:27 AM

Oh thanks for telling us what car it is, ya bitch.

Nagase 09-28-2011 05:34 AM

It's for a Mercedes S class. :P

Bond 09-28-2011 05:53 AM

OK, actually it a 1990 560SEL. Apparently these motors are good for 700whp stock!

matthewdesigns 09-28-2011 12:01 PM

I'm pretty sure you are going to lose the benefit of the twin scroll design unless you keep the exhaust gases divided all the way back to the flange. If you do that then I'd guess that it could work. IDK if twinscroll manifolds need to be equal length to work properly, but that would be another thing to consider when covering that kind of distance.

tasty danish 09-28-2011 01:58 PM

If you join the primaries and then run a divided housing, you could crack the middle of the housing. It happens in RX-7 land at least. As mentioned you'd have to keep the manifold separate the entire way back to see any benefit, if there would be any in that case. I know nothing about rear mount turbos, just turbos in general.

Nagase 09-28-2011 04:11 PM

Well, obviously if you run a twin scroll, you need twin exhaust paths. I mean, that's implied by the name.

It's not that difficult to have a dual exhaust until it reaches the turbo as the car comes stock with a dual exhaust. V8.

tasty danish 09-28-2011 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 777120)
Well, obviously if you run a twin scroll, you need twin exhaust paths. I mean, that's implied by the name.

It's not that difficult to have a dual exhaust until it reaches the turbo as the car comes stock with a dual exhaust. V8.

I know you're kind of a G around these parts, but this is the internet, you never know what you'll run into. We can't always assume you know what you're talking about :giggle:

JasonC SBB 09-28-2011 08:57 PM

Given that the pressure pulses would last all the way to the back, with a twin exhaust I would expect a twin scroll to show gains. Just don't put any resonators between the engine and the turbo, that would reduce the pulsations.

Bond 09-28-2011 09:12 PM

Top mount blower.

Zapp 09-28-2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 777254)
Given that the pressure pulses would last all the way to the back, with a twin exhaust I would expect a twin scroll to show gains. Just don't put any resonators between the engine and the turbo, that would reduce the pulsations.

Anyone know how far back the pressure pulses do last? just curious

messiahx 09-28-2011 10:28 PM

Do it. And post vids.

Nagase 09-28-2011 11:48 PM

It's going to be a long while before this happens. I plan out long term.

JasonC SBB 09-29-2011 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Zapp (Post 777304)
Anyone know how far back the pressure pulses do last? just curious

Just note how loud unmuffled exhaust systems are even with the piping going all the way to the back.

Nagase 09-29-2011 09:38 PM

The resonators is a good point. If I'll be running cats on this car, there's no point to twin scroll, is there?


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