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Old 08-27-2017, 04:04 PM
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Default 1.8 with FM hot side and .86 GT2860R

Terrible, 61.7 lbs per liter per atmo.

Forged 1.8 bottom end with 150k miles stock vvt head
Square top with stock tb
FM hot side with 3" downpipe
VVT coils and plugs at .025"
DW200 and gt500 injectors
v8r 62a mounts
6 speed/3.9
fm2 clutch and stock flywheel
800/500 revalved billies
15x9/225 rs4s
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Precision 350hp ic
93 octane pump
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your fueling looks pretty good, I probably wouldn't lean it out any more
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Moar boost.

David has the map sensor you need sitting on a shelf. Offer him $5 for it.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Moar boost.

David has the map sensor you need sitting on a shelf. Offer him $5 for it.
The problem is that I don't know how to supply the sensor with the required 5v power. The Rev ms does not have a 5v output.
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can't you just grab power from the OEM baro sensor?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
can't you just grab power from the OEM baro sensor?
OEM baro sensor is +12v IIRC. I think that is where I am pulling power for my EBC valve.
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62mph seems slow for 300whp
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How much boost are you running?
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Dotted line in the bottom section of the chart.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Dotted line in the bottom section of the chart.

ddooohhhh.... I didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Wow! Similar setup to mine:
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...o-93282/page3/

I'm actively working on my tune as well but power seems to be similar at this point. We both have a 6 speed/3.9 setup too and I see you're doing your pulls in 5th. I may give that a try to see how spool compares.
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Originally Posted by vteckiller2000
The problem is that I don't know how to supply the sensor with the required 5v power. The Rev ms does not have a 5v output.
This is what soldering irons are for.

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Originally Posted by codrus
This is what soldering irons are for.

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I actually confirmed the oem EGR baro sensor has +5v, so this is in the works. I don't foresee getting much more out of the setup above 24-ish psi, but I've been wrong before.
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
Wow! Similar setup to mine:
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...o-93282/page3/

I'm actively working on my tune as well but power seems to be similar at this point. We both have a 6 speed/3.9 setup too and I see you're doing your pulls in 5th. I may give that a try to see how spool compares.
You actually may have an edge on me for spool if you use 5th. I saw ~700 rpm difference using 3rd vs 5th.
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The TPS also has +5v wire you can use also.
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Originally Posted by vteckiller2000
I actually confirmed the oem EGR baro sensor has +5v, so this is in the works. I don't foresee getting much more out of the setup above 24-ish psi, but I've been wrong before.
Is that +5 supplied by the MS3? If not, you don't want to use it for an analog sensor power.

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Originally Posted by codrus
Is that +5 supplied by the MS3? If not, you don't want to use it for an analog sensor power.

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Originally Posted by vteckiller2000
The problem is that I don't know how to supply the sensor with the required 5v power. The Rev ms does not have a 5v output.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
The Rev MS3 does not have +5 on the db37. It is possible it has it in the OEM harness (although I don't think so). When I faced this issue installing my MAP sensor, I opened up the MS3, picked an unused pin on the db37, and soldered a wire between the +5 supply inside the box and that pin.

Having the +5 that is supplied by the regulator in the MS3 is important, because analog sensors like this return a signal that is proportional to their supply voltage. If that supply voltage is 5% different between the A-D converter in the microcontroller and the sensor (which would not be terribly unusual), then your reading will be off by 5%.

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Originally Posted by codrus
The Rev MS3 does not have +5 on the db37. It is possible it has it in the OEM harness (although I don't think so). When I faced this issue installing my MAP sensor, I opened up the MS3, picked an unused pin on the db37, and soldered a wire between the +5 supply inside the box and that pin.

Having the +5 that is supplied by the regulator in the MS3 is important, because analog sensors like this return a signal that is proportional to their supply voltage. If that supply voltage is 5% different between the A-D converter in the microcontroller and the sensor (which would not be terribly unusual), then your reading will be off by 5%.

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Originally Posted by codrus
The Rev MS3 does not have +5 on the db37. It is possible it has it in the OEM harness (although I don't think so). When I faced this issue installing my MAP sensor, I opened up the MS3, picked an unused pin on the db37, and soldered a wire between the +5 supply inside the box and that pin.

Having the +5 that is supplied by the regulator in the MS3 is important, because analog sensors like this return a signal that is proportional to their supply voltage. If that supply voltage is 5% different between the A-D converter in the microcontroller and the sensor (which would not be terribly unusual), then your reading will be off by 5%.

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I see your concern, but I do believe that the ecu supplies +5v sensor power. This should be the case with both stock ecu and ms. If the stock baro sensor receives +5v from the ecu, then it is getting it from the ms, and thus will be correct for my external MAP measurements.
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