Congrats miatamike! I previously ran a modified Greddy Turbo setup and I think that an Evo 3 16g would be the ultimate Miata turbo. I used to run one on my Mitsubishi 4G61 (1.6L) Turbo Mirage and it was an awesome setup. When I had one on my 91 Talon, spinning all four tires through first gear was as easy as dropping the hammer from a roll. :giggle:

I ended up choosing a T3/T4 for my Miata upgrade though since the tried and true exhaust manifolds are so affordable/plentiful. I'll always have that 16g in the back of my head though - especially after seeing your dyno run! Great stuff!

-Tom

Nice power. How's the boost response -- any more plots/impressions? Evo IIIs are not twin-scroll, right?

Correct. They run your standard Mitsu inlet design on the turbine housing. They also have that absolutely stupid step bult-in there that gets removed with a die-grinder within 4 minutes of opening the box. I doubt a true twin scroll turbine housing/manifold would really improve the performance meaningfully on a 1.8L engine.

I really think I might go with a 16G for my Miata setup, though I just sold my E3 to a freind. They are just one of the best all around turbos in existence. The durability is just awesome.

Thanks

The boost is great im at 20psi by no less then 4k but my manifold is also cracked so now i just took everything off until my new manifold for my v-band HTA3076r is done. then ill have new number and ill try and see if i can get my spool on my dyno sheet also. also the evo3 16g are not twin scroll they started doing that in the evo6.
i have got my EVOIII 16g for sale with down pipe at a great price:hustler:

Dude you have upload some videos...

/\ this

not yet but i will once my new turbo is in and its on the dyno.

I should probably buy a fucking car first. God I suck.

I got my HTA3076R today and also got my modded begi manifold for the v-band so here are some pics.
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Turbo not hit block!


Seriously though, :drool: even if the mani is a bit odd looking to me.

I wonder if BEGi has considered that as a common peice/option on kits.

no it doesn't hit the block but i cant wait to see what it looks like once i bolt it on.

WTF:drool:

The mani definitely looks weird as hell, not going to lie,

BUT THAT TURBO.....WOW...Jealous

Yeah the manifold does look weird but the turbo is crazy and also because it has the tial v-band housing its light as fuck. MMMMM BILLET WHEEL:drool::drool::drool:

Welded stainless steel to cast iron manifold. Nice.

In for data on how fast the HTA comp wheel goes from ~5psig to ~15psig. The HTAs are said to shine in that regard. Which sounds pretty badass to me. You get that old-school rip-your-head-off feel, but with much better efficiency in the bargain.

In for results! i am planning on ordering a turbo next week and was looking at this.

When do you plan to have it setup and tuned?


edit also, what AR hot side is that?

I know thats conventionally considered a no-no, but I ran a wierdo setuup on my DSM that had a mild steel 1.5" tube welded into a stock 2G cast-iron mani for a TiAL 38 because the IWG would not cut it and I wanted to experiment/be cheap. The guy who welded it is amazing. I ran it every day, tons of heat cycles, never a crack. I will get some pics when I am home again.

im test fitting it in tomorrow then once the new tial 38mm v-band wastegate comes in witch should be this weekend ill have the flange welded to the manifold and everything bolted up then onto the dyno. Im lucky with dyno time and use of the dyno seeing as how i know the owner well so he lets me use it late at night once there done with it.

The guy who welded this is an amazing welder/fabricator i have seen him make some crazy stuff for jimmy at the shop. He is also the guy who will be tuning my car.

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Awesome!

This is great! I new it could be done, but was just curious why I don't see it done more often. The welds on the manifold look fantastic, i'm sure this will hold up great.

I'm definately keeping my FM3 manifold now. HX30 here I come:giggle:

people don't do that more often because people that run such baller turbo's usually drop some coin on some baller manifolds too

Very true. But you can't beat a casty for a daily.

So a HTA3076 is a 3076 garrett with a HTA made billet compressor wheel? Just wondering, don't know much at all about HTA. I could google. Nah.

Turbine AR looks to be .82 (2803 cast into turbine, read it backwards. GT30 turbine, .82 A/R)

Thats just the reason i wanted cast is so i can daily drive the car and not worry.
You are right it is a GT3076R with a HTA billet wheel that is light and bigger then the normal GT3076r wheel if flows 57lb but spool just as fast if not faster.

I just bolted it up and here how it looks, it also just cleared the frame by .25 incheshttp://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs327...._6684938_n.jpg

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what a beast!

That's REAL close. Are you going to notch/trim the shelf?

hopefully the bearings near the compressor still get enough oil...

going to notch it so it can sit flat.

So its Faeflora time!

:giggle:

In for pics of carnage:D

Im down to see this.


From what i read the spool will be slightly faster and you should make more power at the same psi being that the compressor wheel is more efficient.

hoping to be on the dyno next week waiting on my tial 38mm v-band wastegate and piping for downpipe and intercooler.

engine, or frame?:doh:

i think that tilt should be just fine, a lot of applications tilt the turbo towards the hotside like that.

That looks rediculous. Way to be. I didn't think I would see a turbo that big on a miata... ever...

You've never seen a 30r on a miata? Where have you been the past year?

http://highboostforum.com/forum/show...heels?p=156314

Some good info on HTA stuff, though limited.....

So, how does it work?
:D

not in yet waiting for wastegate flanges

Update?! :o

Nicely done miatamike. That turbo is huge like my johnson. It reminds me of the s cover turbos minus the anti surge. It's even got the baby bell mouth. Really cool, man. I can't wait for the 25psi #s. I'm so hot for you right now. Is it wrong?:makeout:


You need to get out more!:giggle:

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DIY FTW!

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Getting a new motor built to hold up to 40psi then i will have new numbers. the engine is getting fire ringed so there will be no chance of lifting the head, plus a lot more.

shhhh but on 25psi it made 4XXwhp then the head shit the bed no clue why tho so now new motor build good for 40+psi. like i said above the engine is getting fire ringed, custom L19 head studs, custom pistons, Carrillo rods, port and polished head, shim under bucket tappers, 1mm oversize valves, and supertech valve springs. Thats all off the top of my head but i told my builder to not leave out anything. oh also i am going to do a pull with the stock intake cam and then drop it the jdm mazda intake cam witch is the same as doing the intake exhaust cam mod so we will have numbers to show how much of a difference it really makes.

Keep that L19 well oiled and don't expose it to moisture before you install them.

the who motor is being put together a machine shop that does nothing but high end motors.

What kind of head/block work is done and HG type - from you keeping your HG from blowing out at 40psi?? Or are ARP (L19?) studs just that good? Just wondering if you've done any type of O-ring on the block. Man, this is crazy - seriously making me think about running slightly higher CRs. 9.5:1 + 40psi = TOTAL ANNIHILATION

edit to add: Just read fire-ringed above... is that the same thing at machining an O-ring groove in the block deck?

Damn dude, there's going to be so much trick stuff in that motor it will be like a rolling magic show. You should be getting some sick HP numbers with it. Hope you got money left over for tires.:giggle:

Are you still on the stock drivetrain?

yes... the drivetrain... all this power through a stock trans/diff?...

Are you actually going to put any power on the ground or just spin every gear?

LOL, screw the gears! How fast are you planning on spinning the earth?:giggle:

Maybe it will be fast enough so we can travel back in time and rule the world with our turbocharged Miata army!

Cry havoc and loose the dogs of war...fags!

the head is going to be ported and polished, then there going to put a steel ring in the head then cut a groove into the block so the ring pushes the HG into the block for a perfect seal. Need the l19 studs to help make sure it stays down. my new comp is going to be 9:1.

thanks and no i have a 6 speed a 3.6 lds rear, the reas is not in yet tho.
answered above:crx:

in for new numbers :X OH MY

Ended up selling the the car to buy my new 13b turbo miata but ended up making 437whp and 348wtq before rings or head went bad. but sold it with a new built uninstalled engine to go along with it.

How much boost did you make those numbers at?

You made those numbers using that older FM2 manifold, correct?

20-23psi
we ran more boost and less timing trying to be safe but didnt last long as i think my HG went or rings or head.
yes and its a begi manifold modded for the tial back housing that was a .82A/R.

Oh, ok. The FM/Begi were the same back in those days. I have the same manifold but it came with a external wastegate mount on the bottom. Pretty much the same thing that you did but they called it the FM3. I was worried about being able to put down over 400whp with that manifold design, but it seems to do the job just fine:)

Those numbers you put down were serious. I'm sure you will enjoy the rotary just as much.