330rwhp/258rwtq -- 1.8 motor w/1.6 Lysholm SC (upped boost)
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Went up from a 120mm to 125mm pulley on the crankshaft to up the boost a bit. Was rewarded with 30 more rwhp.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341257603 |
Interesting, were these custom made pieces or from a different year/model engine?
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What's the blower RPM?
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Originally Posted by Crazy Drummer69
(Post 898311)
Interesting, were these custom made pieces or from a different year/model engine?
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 898314)
What's the blower RPM?
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Ban for supercharging.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 898326)
Ban for supercharging.
A: Turbocharging. Q: How do I make my car fast everywhere? A: Supercharging. (Ban for universal counterstatements) :D |
Nice curve.
How much boost? |
It seems to peak out around 18.5ish. It's hard to tell exactly. I don't know if it's something to do with having two many things off one small vacuum line, or if it's because a twin screw gives boost in such discrete packeted chunks, but the boost level on datalogs (and the analog boost gauge in the car) fluctuates by like 1.5ish psi in either direction.
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:drool::bowdown:
WOW. |
Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898331)
Q: How do I make my car look good on a dyno but unresponsive on the street?
A: Turbocharging. Q: How do I make my car fast everywhere? A: Supercharging. (Ban for universal counterstatements) :D How about posting your setup instead of a dyno plot without a single clue on what it takes to get there. Gotta say though, your plot is very impressive. |
Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898331)
Q: How do I make my car look good on a dyno but unresponsive on the street?
A: Turbocharging. Q: How do I make my car fast everywhere? A: Supercharging. (Ban for universal counterstatements) :D |
In before ban.
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Im also curious about how you accomplished this. As well as the associated cost.
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Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898378)
It seems to peak out around 18.5ish. It's hard to tell exactly. I don't know if it's something to do with having two many things off one small vacuum line, or if it's because a twin screw gives boost in such discrete packeted chunks, but the boost level on datalogs (and the analog boost gauge in the car) fluctuates by like 1.5ish psi in either direction.
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Originally Posted by djp0623
(Post 898537)
Im also curious about how you accomplished this. As well as the associated cost.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 898539)
Can you show your datalogs?
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Oh my you need a MAP filter, badly.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 898554)
Oh my you need a MAP filter, badly.
Any suggestions? Some quick googling isn't yielding much. Is it a homebrew type thing, or do you just use like one of the little inline tiny fuel filter thingies? |
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you can tee the map sensor vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator. generally, that's the best place.
my turbo makes same amount of TQ at 3k rpm, and more everywhere else. what boost? |
Very interesting. Simple enough circuit to build. I'll have to give it a shot after the Packwood Pro next weekend on both there and my TPS (I get the same noisy crap on my TPS as you did.)
Now I just need a solution to why my crank angle sensor hates the 12+1 wheel. :) Thanks for the help! |
Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 898572)
you can tee the map sensor vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator. generally, that's the best place.
my turbo makes same amount of TQ at 3k rpm, and more everywhere else. what boost? If you're only making 318whp, then you're making less somewhere. :) |
Start with mechanical (pneumatic) filtering.
The FPR tee tap location is a good one. If you still have noise, put a small restrictor in the vac line nearest the vac source. My buddy used a skinny polypropylene(?) line instead of regular rubber vac hose, and that worked for him. I think he got it from FM. BTW that much noise in your MAP signal is gonna screw up your fueling. You may find your fueling will change after fixing the problem, but it will be consistent. |
Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898574)
If you're only making 318whp, then you're making less somewhere. :)
You seriously need to post more specs... |
Or you could slow that charger down a bit before it blows apart and add a trubo..
Impressive numbers. Edit: Uhhhhh...... $41,727.63?? ---- me!!! |
Impressive.
I want pics!!! |
Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898574)
If you're only making 318whp, then you're making less somewhere. :)
someone doesnt understand how math works... |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 898634)
someone doesnt understand how math works...
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 898595)
Or you could slow that charger down a bit before it blows apart and add a trubo..
Impressive numbers. Edit: Uhhhhh...... $41,727.63?? ---- me!!! Also, really confused what statement you're making with the Edit. :) |
Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 898591)
I have a stock head but, yeah, my TQ drops off at high rpm. I need VVT and/or custom manifold.
You seriously need to post more specs... The motor started life as a stock smoking 99 motor from Panic Motorsports. It was then fully rebuilt with the following: Block: 2002 Oil Pan 2002 Oil Pan Support Plate 2002 Oil Pump 949 Racing Rods Wiseco Coated Pistons ACL Main Bearings ACL Rod Bearings ARP Head Studs ARP Main Studs (218-5401) Head: Supertech 1mm Oversize Valves Supertech valve springs/retainers/seats The full rotating assembly was also balanced, without the clutch/flywheel, and then clutch/flywheel were balanced on the crank against themselves. Induction/Exhaust: Lysholm 1600AX (1.6L twin screw, last generation, not Whipple's newest, the W100AX) Custom Corky Bell intake manifold RB header Custom 3" stainless exhaust |
Originally Posted by codingparadox
(Post 898781)
Quite the opposite... He said "my turbo makes same amount of TQ at 3k rpm, and more everywhere else".
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 898796)
you make exact same HP at 7K, where he lifted. that's like dividing by zero!
His is a turbo setup, on stock cams. From 7-8 it's going to drop like a rock, if his motor build can even support safely running that high. In any event, as I've stated, I'll still take my responsiveness over more torque. If I want more torque, all I need to do is keep bumping the boost, or upgrade to the W100AX, or jump to E85. All of these things are cheap compared to the 42k I've already put into the car. The issue with autocross is having too much torque to be usable. I'm slowly ramping up the torque 10% at a time until I run into a point that it's not usable anymore. 1st gear used to almost have traction on the old tune on asphalt, and now it doesn't, but 2nd gear still has good traction in a straight line. I can probably do another 10% bump and still be fine, but it might also make it harder to drive since I'll be buried into the traction control even more. Baby steps. :) |
do it!
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You have a traction control system? Racelogic?
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Yeah, building a competitive autox car is an EXPENSIVE hobby.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
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You have a traction control system? Racelogic?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 898494)
I just forwardededed this to the internet police. Consequences will never be the same.
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