How much are you making on a 100% STOCK MOTOR?
What is your setup..
Engine Year Turbo Management etc. Max RPM Post a dyno chart if you have it... How long have you been running with this setup? |
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.
Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi. 3" Exhaust FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII) Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps. Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk: |
Before:
All stock, and I mean nothing has ever been touched... got 99 WHP with my Automatic 1999 Miata. After: BEGi-S, custom IC, BEGi FMU, 315cc injectors, O2 Clamp, AEM UEGO, and some other goodies. HP... dunno yet. Still pinging at 8 PSI with WG adjusted all the way out. Solution is on the way this month in the form of new ECU thinggie. Hoping to be over 200 WHP... Cheers, Prospero |
Can only estimate, but somewhere ~275 on a stock b6.
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1.6L - Frankenstein motor
DiY Headwork (unshrouded valves, port matching, blending, etc.) Garrett T3 (Super 60) .48 A/R BEGi Manifold and 2.5"-2.75" BEGi Downpipe 18"x12"x3" Intercooler 2.75" - 3" Test Pipe 3" Enthuza Budget Racer with Magnaflow Muffler MSnSE 029v http://www.boostedmiata.com/dynos/229rwhp.jpg |
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2001 motor
hydra ecu 9.5 psi on a GT2876R 257 rwhp daily driver or i'd have clicked a higher power button. |
wow y8s... 257 whp with less than 10psi? amazing.
Me: 15g turbo greddy manifold and dp custom FMIC (large - 12x25x3) Vortech fmu Greddy knock-off bypass valve 10* timing, no pulling under boost 6.5 psi Setup is very cobbled together right now - the greddy dp and vortech need to go. As-is I'm just hoping to be in the 150 whp range. In a month or two with a MSPNP, 460cc inejctors and Begi DP and 9 psi I'm probably looking for more like 190 whp. |
me:
gt2560r custom turbo manifold BEGi turbo intake manifold 70mm throttle body custom 3" turbo-back STOCK 99 motor MSI 18x12x3 ebay-cooler rx7 550s 14-15 psi http://www.miatamx5.com/dynoruns/4-5-08/300hp.jpg |
I don't know how much power y got. no dyno yet. (I Prefer use this money in more parts :cool: or gas :mad:)
- 1997 miata (1800cc). - Custom made intake, Header and 3" exhaust. - TD04, 460cc injectors and MS@10 Psi. |
92 na
greddy kit, turbo back, intercooler injectors , fmu, hallman mbc 10 psi no clue on power, but i pull on evo's sti's and cars of that nature that are pretty dam fast |
Looks like the majority is really not making much power at all! Yikes!
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God.. I feel so insignificant..
I guestimate maybe if I could ever get my shit tuned... maybe 110rwhp. Soon to change! |
270rwhp at 12psi
stock '94 block AEM EMS two GT1548's dyno plot is somewhere in the most recent MT dynoday thread. |
Originally Posted by mkulak
(Post 253624)
Looks like the majority is really not making much power at all! Yikes!
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Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE
(Post 254615)
Yikes? Not everybody is making more than 2.5 times stock power on a stock block...that's wimpy? I'd say smart.
WIMP!! :giggle: |
You need a sub 150whp button, I'd hit it...
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Originally Posted by mkulak
(Post 254623)
Sorry.... I disagree :) Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.
WIMP!! :giggle: |
Originally Posted by miatamania
(Post 254634)
Tool. :giggle:
:bowrofl: Have a good weekend... Just kidding.. |
218 Hp with a stock 96 engine.
limiting this was the stock cat and 2-1/4 exhaust. expecting to top 250 with my new 2001 engine and 3" exhaust.:) |
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'92 motor... taken from a granny-driven 258k mile car... stock internals.
SR20det T25 Megaquirt (standalone by Brain) Last dyno made 200whp/185ftlbs. Since then, I've swapped to COPS and added 6* of timing across the board. Feels a bit faster now and only running 12psi daily. Butt dyno says I'm making 200whp@12psi. Problem is my T25 spikes to around 14.5psi and settles to about 12psi at redline. I've bumped up the EBC a lot and it just won't hold the boost up high. Could be a wastegate or flow issue... but if the damn thing would hold 14psi to redline, it's make 220whp or so. My 2.25" Borlas don't help. Every day this motor continues to run is a blessing from the Boost God. Attached is my last run... actually hit 202whp on the previous run, but this one had the final "tune" on it. Bumpy AFR in the midrange was a product of a poorly tuned Accel Enrichment table... current datalogs show board-straight AFR's through there. |
Me....about the # same as Sam using a hybrid Greddy kit.
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271 @ the wheels ... but it lasted only about 4 years lol
stock 1.6L BEGI cast manifold Ford SVO T3 3" DP / full exhaust Custom IC Tec II RC 500's Vishnu Rail Here comes the new rods/pistons :) |
Looking at this poll, over 51% of us here are wimps...no wonder they think we is gayz!!!
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 252667)
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.
Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi. 3" Exhaust FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII) Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps. Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk: |
No Meth! Stock T-Body and Intake for part of it and BEGI and 70mm for another part. Most was stock Intake! Rings never went bad, I sold the engine to a local guy running good!
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Marc, was that dyno on pump gas? (110 from a pump doesn't count :p)
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Sunoco 94
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Awesome. That dyno makes me feel better about the BP internals :p
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 289077)
Sunoco 94
It would be easy to extrapolate that you could hit 400rwhp with a NB 1.8 motor (given its far better head and cams) if you ran the same intake, turbo setup & boost and exhaust as your 1995 1.8. However, I don't know if the better flowing NB head will make up for the fact that the '00 motor has higher static compression than the NA motor (per Randy @ Solo Miata, '95 was 8.8 compression vs. 9.5 for '00) and is probably less tolerant of both boost and timing when you exceed 12 psi. If your engine management system can SAFELY log knock counts, you can do some optimization runs (third gear pulls on "safe" roads or 4th gear on a chassis dyno) to see if less boost (15psi with more timing) gives more usable street power than more boost (18psi with less timing). Then again, it's relatively easy to run a 50/50 water/methanol system that will allow you to run 18-19psi of boost with "good" timing. It may be pain to keep re-filling the meth container but detonation (stock Miata ring lands and rods quickly expire when detonation occurs at high boost) won't be a problem and your street tires should enough of a "fuse" to protect the stock trans and rearend for normal street driving. :) |
I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.
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Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
(Post 289454)
I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.
Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost??? |
never dynoed mine, because i don't give a damn
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 254623)
Sorry.... I disagree :) Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.
WIMP!! :giggle: Once I get a 6 speed and build my spare block I plan to upgrade the compressor and see how much power I can make on the stock head/block before it pops. |
Originally Posted by sn95
(Post 289649)
Hey Ray,
Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost??? |
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Stock 94 1.8 block
151,000 original miles 51,000 boosted miles Begi manifold/dp GT2560R @ 15 psi's Link ems Attachment 211031 |
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Well, got the car on the road and running WG 5.5psi with a safe tune right now.
Attachment 211016 A/F is hovering around 10.8-11:1. We'll get it closer to 11.5:1 when we hook up the boost controller and turn up the boost. I am still amazed that I got almost 190whp from 5.5psi, without even touching the cam gears. My tuner said we could probably play with the cam gear and get it up to 200whp. We'll worry about that when we get the boost turned up, which might happen tonight. :P |
might as well update:
311hp/260ftlbs on stock 99 motor. |
I always thought you were built. How much boost?
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17. made 300 with 14 so its def out of its efficiency range
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2003 VVT
GT2860RS (Disco Potato) 13psi XEDE 7000rpm........272.46rwhp 235ft. lbs. My dyno chart is already on here somewhere, Stef posted it. Engine is completely stock but not for much longer, I bent a rod. My fault!:) I can't believe how long it lasted because I am anything but easy on it. Ask anybody. |
Haltech E6k ECu
Aftermarket ignition coils using OEM crank angle sensor T3 .42 ar .48 turbo 16 Psi stock engine Greddy type s BOV 550 cc rx7 fuel injectors 255 lph walbro fuel pump Tial wastegate (40? Mm) Custom downpipe/midpipe, Flyin miata high flow catalytic converter, 3 inch cat back to magnaflow muffler. Greddy profec spec b boost controller. OEM radiator with aftermarket fans(spal?) Innovate LC1 wideband wired into the Megasquirt Front mount intercooler dyno'd 250 hp, 240 tq. the fuel map was pig rich. i ran the car for about a year with this configuration. i had a bout with bad gas, and melted a dime sized hole in the #4 cyl. i later rebuilt the engine with the wiseco 8.5 pistons, and a Ms1extra. im shooting for same power but safer. |
Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 252667)
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.
Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi. 3" Exhaust FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII) Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps. Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk: |
-1992 Eunos Roadster NA6CE
-Mitsubishi TD04 -2.5" Exhaust -GReddy Emanage Blue 170Bhp |
Stuff is in sig. 250hp/230tq. 14.5ish psi. Pretty rich. In the process of leaning it out.
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
(Post 350798)
Was this 360 wheel hp? 360whp corrected and if so what correction factor? 360 whp on FM's dyno? ;) Sincerely curious though. Got a GT3271 at 11 PSI right now and I'm afraid to turn it up.
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 350861)
It was 360 at the wheel on a Dynojet Un-Corrected in Oakville, Ontario CANADA
I'm torn. |
Tuning, and fuel quality. That was on Sunoco 94 or Pioneer 93.
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How long has it been running at that horsepower level?
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
(Post 350865)
Tuning, and fuel quality. That was on Sunoco 94 or Pioneer 93.
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Originally Posted by mrtonyg
(Post 350866)
How long has it been running at that horsepower level?
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I think you mean 300hp.
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155k on my motor, I figure it's at a solid 230whp after the testpipe + retune. It's been over 200whp since 130k.
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TRULY STOCK motor
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1.6 with the Stock injectors , Stock fuel pump, Stock fuel pressure regulator, a Greddy turbo and manifold with no boost control, 91 octane fuel, we are making 148RWHP at 6.8 PSI at the manifold. AFR's are low 12's.
The ECU is NOT stock, but the motor sure is.... |
^^drgoodwrench where did you source those flares?
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1993 stock 1.6, everything is stock except the radiator (PWR), the exhaust (Racing Beat) and the ECU (megasquirt pnp) . The car has 180,000 on it, so I'm only running 6psi on this daily driver. BEGi-SSM and no intercooler.
156.17 rwhp and 131.10 torque http://myturbomiata.com/images/dyno plot 760.jpg |
Originally Posted by mrtonyg
(Post 350927)
^^drgoodwrench where did you source those flares?
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