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M-Tuned 05-06-2008 11:01 AM

How much are you making on a 100% STOCK MOTOR?
 
What is your setup..

Engine Year
Turbo
Management etc.
Max RPM

Post a dyno chart if you have it... How long have you been running with this setup?

M-Tuned 05-06-2008 11:09 AM

I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.

Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi.
3" Exhaust
FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII)
Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps.

Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk:

Prospero 05-06-2008 11:11 AM

Before:
All stock, and I mean nothing has ever been touched... got 99 WHP with my Automatic 1999 Miata.

After:

BEGi-S, custom IC, BEGi FMU, 315cc injectors, O2 Clamp, AEM UEGO, and some other goodies. HP... dunno yet. Still pinging at 8 PSI with WG adjusted all the way out. Solution is on the way this month in the form of new ECU thinggie. Hoping to be over 200 WHP...

Cheers,
Prospero

Ben 05-06-2008 11:13 AM

Can only estimate, but somewhere ~275 on a stock b6.

Braineack 05-06-2008 11:16 AM

1.6L - Frankenstein motor
DiY Headwork (unshrouded valves, port matching, blending, etc.)
Garrett T3 (Super 60) .48 A/R
BEGi Manifold and 2.5"-2.75" BEGi Downpipe
18"x12"x3" Intercooler
2.75" - 3" Test Pipe
3" Enthuza Budget Racer with Magnaflow Muffler
MSnSE 029v

http://www.boostedmiata.com/dynos/229rwhp.jpg

Atlanta93LE 05-06-2008 11:23 AM

1993
small 16g, 8.5psi
MSPNP
~190rwhp
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...1&d=1208807283

y8s 05-06-2008 11:59 AM

2001 motor
hydra ecu
9.5 psi on a GT2876R
257 rwhp

daily driver or i'd have clicked a higher power button.

ThePass 05-06-2008 01:14 PM

wow y8s... 257 whp with less than 10psi? amazing.

Me:
15g turbo
greddy manifold and dp
custom FMIC (large - 12x25x3)
Vortech fmu
Greddy knock-off bypass valve
10* timing, no pulling under boost
6.5 psi

Setup is very cobbled together right now - the greddy dp and vortech need to go. As-is I'm just hoping to be in the 150 whp range.
In a month or two with a MSPNP, 460cc inejctors and Begi DP and 9 psi I'm probably looking for more like 190 whp.

paul 05-06-2008 01:26 PM

me:

gt2560r
custom turbo manifold
BEGi turbo intake manifold
70mm throttle body
custom 3" turbo-back
STOCK 99 motor
MSI
18x12x3 ebay-cooler
rx7 550s
14-15 psi

http://www.miatamx5.com/dynoruns/4-5-08/300hp.jpg

macanha 05-06-2008 01:53 PM

I don't know how much power y got. no dyno yet. (I Prefer use this money in more parts :cool: or gas :mad:)

- 1997 miata (1800cc).
- Custom made intake, Header and 3" exhaust.
- TD04, 460cc injectors and MS@10 Psi.

urgaynknowit 05-06-2008 02:14 PM

92 na

greddy kit,
turbo back,
intercooler
injectors ,
fmu,
hallman mbc
10 psi

no clue on power,
but i pull on evo's sti's and cars of that nature that are pretty dam fast

M-Tuned 05-07-2008 11:08 PM

Looks like the majority is really not making much power at all! Yikes!

elesjuan 05-07-2008 11:11 PM

God.. I feel so insignificant..

I guestimate maybe if I could ever get my shit tuned... maybe 110rwhp. Soon to change!

TurboTim 05-09-2008 02:36 PM

270rwhp at 12psi
stock '94 block
AEM EMS
two GT1548's
dyno plot is somewhere in the most recent MT dynoday thread.

Atlanta93LE 05-09-2008 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by mkulak (Post 253624)
Looks like the majority is really not making much power at all! Yikes!

Yikes? Not everybody is making more than 2.5 times stock power on a stock block...that's wimpy? I'd say smart.

M-Tuned 05-09-2008 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 254615)
Yikes? Not everybody is making more than 2.5 times stock power on a stock block...that's wimpy? I'd say smart.

Sorry.... I disagree :) Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.

WIMP!! :giggle:

Zabac 05-09-2008 03:00 PM

You need a sub 150whp button, I'd hit it...

miatamania 05-09-2008 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by mkulak (Post 254623)
Sorry.... I disagree :) Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.

WIMP!! :giggle:

Tool. :giggle:

M-Tuned 05-09-2008 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 254634)
Tool. :giggle:

You don't even have a turbo :fawk: You should not be allowed to post here ....

:bowrofl:

Have a good weekend... Just kidding..

oreo 05-14-2008 09:28 PM

218 Hp with a stock 96 engine.
limiting this was the stock cat and 2-1/4 exhaust.

expecting to top 250 with my new 2001 engine and 3" exhaust.:)

Handy Mann 05-14-2008 09:38 PM

Bone stock 2000.

Hydra, 2560, 7200RPM

http://www.hoppertech.com/miata/inde...rected1-07.jpg

kotomile 05-14-2008 09:53 PM

1 Attachment(s)
240 hp @ hubs, Greddy'd 1.6

Attachment 213150

samnavy 05-14-2008 10:09 PM

1 Attachment(s)
'92 motor... taken from a granny-driven 258k mile car... stock internals.
SR20det T25
Megaquirt (standalone by Brain)

Last dyno made 200whp/185ftlbs.

Since then, I've swapped to COPS and added 6* of timing across the board. Feels a bit faster now and only running 12psi daily. Butt dyno says I'm making 200whp@12psi.

Problem is my T25 spikes to around 14.5psi and settles to about 12psi at redline. I've bumped up the EBC a lot and it just won't hold the boost up high. Could be a wastegate or flow issue... but if the damn thing would hold 14psi to redline, it's make 220whp or so. My 2.25" Borlas don't help.

Every day this motor continues to run is a blessing from the Boost God.

Attached is my last run... actually hit 202whp on the previous run, but this one had the final "tune" on it. Bumpy AFR in the midrange was a product of a poorly tuned Accel Enrichment table... current datalogs show board-straight AFR's through there.

IcantDo55 05-15-2008 02:58 AM

Me....about the # same as Sam using a hybrid Greddy kit.

iluvspd 07-28-2008 02:52 PM

271 @ the wheels ... but it lasted only about 4 years lol


stock 1.6L
BEGI cast manifold
Ford SVO T3
3" DP / full exhaust
Custom IC
Tec II
RC 500's
Vishnu Rail


Here comes the new rods/pistons :)

Zabac 07-28-2008 03:19 PM

Looking at this poll, over 51% of us here are wimps...no wonder they think we is gayz!!!

Faeflora 07-28-2008 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 252667)
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.

Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi.
3" Exhaust
FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII)
Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps.

Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk:

Were you running meth? Was that the stock throttle body and intake manifold? Did your rings eventually go bad?

M-Tuned 07-28-2008 04:09 PM

No Meth! Stock T-Body and Intake for part of it and BEGI and 70mm for another part. Most was stock Intake! Rings never went bad, I sold the engine to a local guy running good!

ApexOnYou 07-28-2008 06:08 PM

Marc, was that dyno on pump gas? (110 from a pump doesn't count :p)

M-Tuned 07-28-2008 06:15 PM

Sunoco 94

ApexOnYou 07-28-2008 06:16 PM

Awesome. That dyno makes me feel better about the BP internals :p

sn95 07-29-2008 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 289077)
Sunoco 94

Marc,

It would be easy to extrapolate that you could hit 400rwhp with a NB 1.8 motor (given its far better head and cams) if you ran the same intake, turbo setup & boost and exhaust as your 1995 1.8. However, I don't know if the better flowing NB head will make up for the fact that the '00 motor has higher static compression than the NA motor (per Randy @ Solo Miata, '95 was 8.8 compression vs. 9.5 for '00) and is probably less tolerant of both boost and timing when you exceed 12 psi. If your engine management system can SAFELY log knock counts, you can do some optimization runs (third gear pulls on "safe" roads or 4th gear on a chassis dyno) to see if less boost (15psi with more timing) gives more usable street power than more boost (18psi with less timing).

Then again, it's relatively easy to run a 50/50 water/methanol system that will allow you to run 18-19psi of boost with "good" timing. It may be pain to keep re-filling the meth container but detonation (stock Miata ring lands and rods quickly expire when detonation occurs at high boost) won't be a problem and your street tires should enough of a "fuse" to protect the stock trans and rearend for normal street driving. :)

ray_sir_6 07-29-2008 03:10 PM

I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.

sn95 07-29-2008 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by ray_sir_6 (Post 289454)
I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.

Hey Ray,

Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost???

bryantaylor 07-29-2008 09:10 PM

never dynoed mine, because i don't give a damn

Arkmage 07-29-2008 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 254623)
Sorry.... I disagree :) Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.

WIMP!! :giggle:

I made 214HP @ 12 psi (well... spiked to 12 psi and settled at 10psi). That was with the god awful crush bent 2.25" exhaust. With the 3", new BEGi downpipe, dual feed fuel rail (yours), coolant re-route, and a few other tricks... I anticipate making 260 or so, but will detune it to slightly under 250 to protect the trans until I can get a 6 speed (it's my only car).

Once I get a 6 speed and build my spare block I plan to upgrade the compressor and see how much power I can make on the stock head/block before it pops.

ray_sir_6 07-30-2008 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by sn95 (Post 289649)
Hey Ray,

Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost???

The stock Greddy one, with a water/meth injection kit. Probably run 19-20psi, max effeciency on the 15G is 24, so should be fine.

mazspeed 09-17-2008 03:30 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Stock 94 1.8 block
151,000 original miles
51,000 boosted miles
Begi manifold/dp
GT2560R @ 15 psi's
Link ems
Attachment 211031

ray_sir_6 09-17-2008 02:46 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Well, got the car on the road and running WG 5.5psi with a safe tune right now.

Attachment 211016

A/F is hovering around 10.8-11:1. We'll get it closer to 11.5:1 when we hook up the boost controller and turn up the boost. I am still amazed that I got almost 190whp from 5.5psi, without even touching the cam gears. My tuner said we could probably play with the cam gear and get it up to 200whp. We'll worry about that when we get the boost turned up, which might happen tonight. :P

paul 11-21-2008 11:32 AM

might as well update:

311hp/260ftlbs on stock 99 motor.

ApexOnYou 11-21-2008 05:46 PM

I always thought you were built. How much boost?

paul 11-21-2008 06:58 PM

17. made 300 with 14 so its def out of its efficiency range

ray_sir_6 11-25-2008 02:35 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 209860

10psi and adjusted the cam timing

mattkock 12-06-2008 12:20 AM

2003 VVT
GT2860RS (Disco Potato) 13psi
XEDE
7000rpm........272.46rwhp 235ft. lbs.


My dyno chart is already on here somewhere, Stef posted it.
Engine is completely stock but not for much longer, I bent a rod. My fault!:)
I can't believe how long it lasted because I am anything but easy on it. Ask anybody.

jamiemiller 01-08-2009 04:11 PM

Haltech E6k ECu
Aftermarket ignition coils using OEM crank angle sensor
T3 .42 ar .48 turbo 16 Psi
stock engine
Greddy type s BOV
550 cc rx7 fuel injectors
255 lph walbro fuel pump
Tial wastegate (40? Mm)
Custom downpipe/midpipe, Flyin miata high flow catalytic converter, 3 inch cat back to magnaflow muffler.
Greddy profec spec b boost controller.
OEM radiator with aftermarket fans(spal?)
Innovate LC1 wideband wired into the Megasquirt
Front mount intercooler


dyno'd 250 hp, 240 tq. the fuel map was pig rich. i ran the car for about a year with this configuration. i had a bout with bad gas, and melted a dime sized hole in the #4 cyl. i later rebuilt the engine with the wiseco 8.5 pistons, and a Ms1extra. im shooting for same power but safer.

patsmx5 01-08-2009 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 252667)
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.

Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi.
3" Exhaust
FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII)
Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps.

Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc.. :fawk:

Was this 360 wheel hp? 360whp corrected and if so what correction factor? 360 whp on FM's dyno? ;) Sincerely curious though. Got a GT3271 at 11 PSI right now and I'm afraid to turn it up.

jim-NA 01-08-2009 06:43 PM

-1992 Eunos Roadster NA6CE
-Mitsubishi TD04
-2.5" Exhaust
-GReddy Emanage Blue

170Bhp

johndoe 01-08-2009 06:57 PM

Stuff is in sig. 250hp/230tq. 14.5ish psi. Pretty rich. In the process of leaning it out.

M-Tuned 01-08-2009 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 350798)
Was this 360 wheel hp? 360whp corrected and if so what correction factor? 360 whp on FM's dyno? ;) Sincerely curious though. Got a GT3271 at 11 PSI right now and I'm afraid to turn it up.

It was 360 at the wheel on a Dynojet Un-Corrected in Oakville, Ontario CANADA

patsmx5 01-08-2009 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 350861)
It was 360 at the wheel on a Dynojet Un-Corrected in Oakville, Ontario CANADA

Well, that's impressive. I hate seeing all these people that break/bend rods at 250 and 300 whp, but then some don't... And you did 360 on stock ones.

I'm torn.

M-Tuned 01-08-2009 08:48 PM

Tuning, and fuel quality. That was on Sunoco 94 or Pioneer 93.

mrtonyg 01-08-2009 08:51 PM

How long has it been running at that horsepower level?


Tony

patsmx5 01-08-2009 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 350865)
Tuning, and fuel quality. That was on Sunoco 94 or Pioneer 93.

Still a 100+whp discrepancy is a lot. Granted, I just wonder if some/most/all engine failures at 250-300whp are from poor tuning/hint of knock/etc. Recently someone broke a rod that was around the 250whp level and said there wasn't any knock.

M-Tuned 01-08-2009 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by mrtonyg (Post 350866)
How long has it been running at that horsepower level?

I ran it for 8 months... I think Paul has been just over 300hp on a stock 99 for quite a while also.

johndoe 01-08-2009 09:19 PM

I think you mean 300hp.

Savington 01-08-2009 09:26 PM

155k on my motor, I figure it's at a solid 230whp after the testpipe + retune. It's been over 200whp since 130k.

drgoodwrench 01-08-2009 10:13 PM

TRULY STOCK motor
 
2 Attachment(s)
1.6 with the Stock injectors , Stock fuel pump, Stock fuel pressure regulator, a Greddy turbo and manifold with no boost control, 91 octane fuel, we are making 148RWHP at 6.8 PSI at the manifold. AFR's are low 12's.

The ECU is NOT stock, but the motor sure is....

mrtonyg 01-08-2009 10:36 PM

^^drgoodwrench where did you source those flares?

Wardsweb 01-08-2009 10:45 PM

1993 stock 1.6, everything is stock except the radiator (PWR), the exhaust (Racing Beat) and the ECU (megasquirt pnp) . The car has 180,000 on it, so I'm only running 6psi on this daily driver. BEGi-SSM and no intercooler.

156.17 rwhp and 131.10 torque

http://myturbomiata.com/images/dyno plot 760.jpg

samnavy 01-08-2009 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by mrtonyg (Post 350927)
^^drgoodwrench where did you source those flares?

They kinda look homemade?


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