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Toddcod 02-07-2009 08:27 PM

Hustler, trade me your 6 speed for my 1.8L and 5 speed combo!

Nice numbers! I want a ride!

hustler 02-07-2009 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Toddcod (Post 365054)
Hustler, trade me your 6 speed for my 1.8L and 5 speed combo!

Nice numbers! I want a ride!

wtf?

You can get a ride, hopefully at the track. I can't wait to rape in this thing. Suspension and brakes are still impressive too. Its a package deal.

patsmx5 02-07-2009 10:00 PM

Torque doesn't hold too well after 5k. But still, solid numbers, especially for a dyno-dynamics. Your timing table is wild. I so gotta get me some 8.5:1 compression pistons. That's a good build and good tune for track duty. For damn sure.

ZX-Tex 02-07-2009 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 365001)
fuck your 93 octane, fuck your timing map, fuck your 8.5:1 motor, fuck you

fuck

youuuuuuu

LOL. No kidding that timing map in boost is nuts. I would have been pinging like a mofo with my 9.5:1 motor. And that is with 93 octane.

No likey the 2860 spool? What RPM were you making, say, 12 psi at? It is hard to tell from that dyno plot picture.

ThePass 02-07-2009 10:20 PM

would be schweet to see the datalog to go along with that pull

Ben 02-07-2009 10:20 PM

a lot of timing, not a lot of fuel, at least not much resolution in the fuel map. what is your REQ FUEL?

You're doing well, but I think you can be doing much better. :)

hustler 02-08-2009 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 365090)
LOL. No kidding that timing map in boost is nuts. I would have been pinging like a mofo with my 9.5:1 motor. And that is with 93 octane.

No likey the 2860 spool? What RPM were you making, say, 12 psi at? It is hard to tell from that dyno plot picture.

4400rpm


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 365102)
would be schweet to see the datalog to go along with that pull

http://i42.tinypic.com/2dh8z8m.png


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 365104)
a lot of timing, not a lot of fuel, at least not much resolution in the fuel map. what is your REQ FUEL?

You're doing well, but I think you can be doing much better. :)

req fuel is 5.7 and i have a new walbro 255. I need to learn more about tuning, but I don't know where else to find the answers or theory to make this turbo spool-up faster and to keep the torque high after it spools. I don't know what to do now.

johnwag 02-08-2009 02:30 AM

I bet that car is slow. We should have a drag race in reverse gear.

I expect nothing less than FTD at Hallett! Unless Matt goes......

18psi 02-08-2009 02:32 AM

you two should race in drag:giggle:

johnwag 02-08-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 365187)
you two should race in drag:giggle:

I'd be the girl of your dreams.....

18psi 02-08-2009 02:35 AM

:bowrofl:

akaryrye 02-08-2009 03:53 AM

Way to go Hustler! The grass is always greener ... even though you are doubting your choice in turbo, it seems to me a great choice for what you want your car to be which of course is track slut and annihilator of snobby fags in expensive cars.

Everything will be just fine my friend.

Laur3ns 02-08-2009 06:17 AM

No doubt a 2560 would spool sooner (mine does 14psi at around 3300rpm now on the street at part throttle), but your 28 will not see much below 4k on track anyway and will run cooler at that. So you win on the track unless you forget to down shift :)

Fireindc 02-08-2009 07:38 AM

So.. more boost?

Seriousy though, congrats huster! I'm glad you stopped being a bitch and are happy about the car now.

magnamx-5 02-08-2009 09:51 AM

OMFG Now i know i been away to long hustler has a turbo :magna: needs to come back and haze him bad lol






















GJ man

Rafa 02-08-2009 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 365236)
OMFG Now i know i been away to long hustler has a turbo :magna: needs to come back and haze him bad lol


Magna, it was about time!

We miss you :giggle::magna:

You went away for so long that hustler had time to complete his build! :)

y8s 02-08-2009 11:55 AM

fix your spool fool!

patsmx5 02-08-2009 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 365180)
4400rpm


req fuel is 5.7 and i have a new walbro 255. I need to learn more about tuning, but I don't know where else to find the answers or theory to make this turbo spool-up faster and to keep the torque high after it spools. I don't know what to do now.

Something don't sound right. My turbo's bigger than yours and it's at 11 PSI by 3200 from a 4th gear pull. I suspect your WG isn't right personally. I'm guessing it's an internal WG?

ChuckyZ 02-08-2009 12:59 PM

It looks like his afrs are around 11.5 to 12.0 during spool. I have found running 13.5 14.1 during spoolup increases it alot. Also you need the most ve% at torque peak. After that you should tapper off ve% since your required fuel per cycle is less. That is why you are getting richer and richer on the big end and losing torque. That is unless you want that for safety.

I personally tune for good afr's then add timing. 12.0 at your boost level. One thing that adding fuel does is delay the beginning of the burn thus it is the same thing as retarding timing. I have found that running the correct afr and less timing makes more power than running rich and more timing. Very good baseline tuning. Let me know if I explained it properly i'm not a good explainer.

Savington 02-08-2009 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by ChuckyZ (Post 365295)

I have found that running the correct afr and less timing makes more power than running rich and more timing. Very good baseline tuning. Let me know if I explained it properly i'm not a good explainer.

With Miatas, I have found the opposite. Ben has said his car makes more power at 11.4 than 11.8. Hustler found MBT on pump gas (:vash:) at 11.6 or so. I was able to add 3-4 degrees of timing by reducing AFRs by 8/10ths of a point, and from what I've seen on other cars that 3-4 degrees of timing is worth 15-20whp.


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