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ManiacLachy 09-24-2017 06:51 PM

MSM with Flex Fuel Setup
 
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Dyno is comparing premium gasoline (called 98 in Australia, comparable to 93 in the US) to E85.

The car is an Australian MSM (aka SE). Running MSPNP-Pro, EBC, 3" dp/exhaust (w/ cat & muffler), custom intake, ebay intercooler, walbro 255, Flow Force 640 injectors, flex sensor. Stock motor and turbo. Running about 15psi.

This is pretty much all the stock setup can make, I guess I could get some additional gains from a flattop, or a BNR turbo upgrade, but I won't be chasing those at this time. Car is a lot of fun right now.

All fabrication and tuning done by NitroDann.

My intro post if you're interested in more detail.

Ryan_G 09-24-2017 07:56 PM

Nice plot. This is a great plot for a stock motor. Anything more and you would be looking at possible bent rods.

18psi 09-24-2017 08:04 PM

why is the dyno right-side-up? :giggle:

but yeah, that looks great. what are your IDC's? thoe FF's should be completely tapped out

sonofthehill 09-24-2017 08:38 PM

I think if you up the pressure they flow significantly more.

ManiacLachy 09-24-2017 08:42 PM

I think all MSMs have Schrodinger's rods. They're both bent and straight until you open the engine to replace them - and then 1 or 2 of them are always twisted.

Not sure on the duty cycles, NitroDann might know if he checks in here. I realise they're near their limits. I'll log a pull one day and see.

In fact injectors are the one point of the build I would do differently if I were to do it again. Nothing wrong with FF of course, but should I ever build the motor or upgrade the turbo (and isn't that the dream?) they'll need to be replaced. But hey, what's another few hundred dollars when building a motor?

ridethecliche 09-24-2017 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1441644)
I think if you up the pressure they flow significantly more.

​​​​​That's what I thought. I wonder what the point is where they just can't supply any more fuel even with an aftermarket pump.

18psi 09-24-2017 11:20 PM

That has already been discovered, and posted.
~7 bar or 100psi

ManiacLachy 09-25-2017 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1441644)
I think if you up the pressure they flow significantly more.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1441673)
That has already been discovered, and posted.
~7 bar or 100psi

Thanks guys, I wasn't aware of that and hadn't even considered it. Good to know!
:likecat:

ridethecliche 09-27-2017 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by ManiacLachy (Post 1441830)
Thanks guys, I wasn't aware of that and hadn't even considered it. Good to know!
:likecat:

+1


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