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borka 06-18-2018 02:30 PM

NB2 EFR 6258 Kraken mani/dp
 
Real dyno, 10-11psi and 17psi.
Virtual dyno 15-16psi

Car:
02 NB2
EFR 6258 T25 .64ar
Kraken cast manifold / 3" dp
3" catless exhaust / big magnaflow muffler.
94 block, VVT head, Vics manifold
stock 1994 (8.8-9.0cr) pistons w/new rings
eBay rods w/arp bolts
ACL Race bearings stock size
MS3 Basic, FF640 injectors
93 octane gas.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0209a90639.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...80374b0c47.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b6aa392320.jpg

yossi126 06-18-2018 03:20 PM

That looks very healthy!
How much boost?

borka 06-18-2018 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by yossi126 (Post 1486967)
That looks very healthy!
How much boost?

Thanks. 16psi

18psi 06-18-2018 03:50 PM

It's.......right there

lol

Looks great btw

andyfloyd 06-19-2018 04:40 PM

Love that torque curve, or should I say plateau.

thumpetto007 06-19-2018 05:37 PM

That kraken mani magic and the 3" dp baybeee, Im so excited to get my stuff!

His new dps are made out of 2mm 316L SS. Serious shit. (Top pipe in picture compared to the old alloy on bottom)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...26d98901b9.jpg

ridethecliche 06-19-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1487194)
That kraken mani magic and the 3" dp baybeee, Im so excited to get my stuff!

His new dps are made out of 2mm 316L SS. Serious shit. (Top pipe in picture compared to the old alloy on bottom)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...26d98901b9.jpg

Huh.

When did that switch happen?

borka 06-19-2018 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1487194)
That kraken mani magic and the 3" dp baybeee, Im so excited to get my stuff!

His new dps are made out of 2mm 316L SS. Serious shit. (Top pipe in picture compared to the old alloy on bottom)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...26d98901b9.jpg

all i see is 2 pipes. lol

i get that one is thicker, which is good, but from the pic they look the same to me.

thumpetto007 06-19-2018 10:15 PM

He updated within the past couple days. There are two dps in the pic, top one is slightly brighter metal, otherwise it looks the same from that angle.

https://www.thebalance.com/type-316-and-316l-stainless-steel-2340262

borka 09-02-2018 12:36 AM

added real dyno pulls from todays runs.

thumpetto007 09-02-2018 12:58 AM

Sweet dude! I'm still waiting on Kraken parts.

Lets see videos!

nitrodann 09-02-2018 02:37 AM

It's good, but a GT2860rs (disco potato) with a 0.86 rear housing can achieve that sheet.. just.

Dann

borka 09-02-2018 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1499615)
It's good, but a GT2860rs (disco potato) with a 0.86 rear housing can achieve that sheet.. just.

Dann

yeah at full tilt at 20+ psi.
6258 not even sweating with 100 more hp to go.
And it spools faster.

nitrodann 09-02-2018 03:57 AM

No, I mean the whole graph, if that's your power graph you want a GT2860rs can do it at 18psi and have the same power at ~3000rpm.

If you're going to turn it up later, awesome.

Dann

ridethecliche 09-03-2018 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1499618)
No, I mean the whole graph, if that's your power graph you want a GT2860rs can do it at 18psi and have the same power at ~3000rpm.

If you're going to turn it up later, awesome.

Dann

Wait. What? He could have that power at 3k? I don't follow.

nitrodann 09-03-2018 09:26 PM

100whp@3000rpm. Ie, same outright numbers, same low rpm torque.

Dann

borka 09-03-2018 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1499891)
100whp@3000rpm. Ie, same outright numbers, same low rpm torque.

Dann

and I'm sure they both idle at the same hp level as well.

I measure turbos by how soon i can hit 200lbs tq.
my 2560 hit it at 3250
my 6258 at 3300
my 2860 with begi manifold/dp at 3800.

2860 cant touch a 6258 spool wise, response, and max output wise.

nitrodann 09-03-2018 10:12 PM

First let me say that its a sweet build and I am not shitting on you, I just wanted to let people who read the thread know that your graph can be achieved on a 2860rs.

Looking at your VD you have 100whp@3000rpm, just like a Gt2860rs can have.

You have 180whp@4000rpm, just like a Gt2860rs can have.

You have 250whp@5000rpm, just like a Gt2860rs can have.

etc

You can do it in ftlb if you want, but it's like for like comparing HP at the same rpm also, as i have done.

You probably have a bit better transient response though. And i assume you will turn it up a lot further than a Gt2860rs can go, in the future.

Dann

Ted75zcar 09-04-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1499615)
It's good, but a GT2860rs (disco potato) with a 0.86 rear housing can achieve that sheet.. just.

Dann

I sure would like to see real (Miata) data that supports this (and the other claims made in this thread). I agree that the compressor map for the 2860rs supports this, but I run a T28R 0.86 combo on my car, and there isn't enough exhaust energy to get the PR and flow rate required for the compressor RPM on my setup, turbo only.

Mech5700 09-04-2018 04:15 PM

1 Attachment(s)
GT2860RS, .86 housing, ~15psi. BEGi log mani, separated gas 2.5" DP down to a hacked up crush bent 3" straight pipe out the back.

I think I logged it, will post a log screen shot if I can find it.

note: it was a dyno day so they were just doing pulls after pulls, the date, test/file name is incorrect.

Attachment 228695


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