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Old 09-17-2007, 03:58 AM   #1
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Default 01+ Emanage Qs after install

Hi All,
I installed my Emanage Blue on the weekend into my 01+ model. Car runs smoothly except for forgetting that resistor for MAF in. Everything is zero'd out so no changes are being made by the EMB yet.

A few things in the Real Time Data Analysis though:
1) My RPM scale isn't really working. It shows 100, 200, 300 but it has no correlation to the actual RPM
2) There is no record for Injector Duty.
3) Throttle position only shows a maximum of 78%, but on the scale, it seems to be very accurate.
4) I can only log for 180 seconds. Is this normal?
5) How the hell can I tune it without an O2 signal show the A/F ratio? Even with the stock narrowband signal would be better than nothing. I haven't seen any instructions on how to wire in the O2 sensor to the emanage so I presume I can't do that. Do I need a wideband with it's own display?

I haven't really changed anything at all in the Support Tool. No change to the type of AFM, RPM scales, Injector compensation. I just zero'd everything out, plugged it in and started driving and logging.

I'll try and get the picture of the graph off my other laptop.

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Bevan

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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Hey Bevan, firstly congrates on the install
im guessing that the support tool is the same for both the emu (which I have) & the emb, since your in my time (aust) if you have msn i can try my hardest to help you out with your problems (even though im a newcomer to this also) but two heads have to be better then one

anyways let me know how your travelling
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Gday! Na, don't have MSN. But I am on Aus-cartalk. PM me if you have any ideas, although our ECU's are different, so have different pinouts. My username on there is he same as here. You've got the gold NB8A yeah?
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I grounded the injectors today. I shared the same ground as the unit itself. Nester said that's what he used. Still no injector duty though. Checked the brown wire for RPM and it seems to be in nice and securely. Gave it a very firm pull and it didn't budge at all.

Anyone had the same problem with RPM and injector duty?
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:02 AM   #5
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I got it working!

I put the injector ground in and was still not seeing any injector duty.

Went back to my work desk and looked at some wiring diagrams. Noticed that there is a G/Y (Green Yellow) AND and G/O (Green Orange) wire. When your crouched over, strecthing under the dash of the passenger footwell, these 2 wires look exactly the same.

The RPM wire was connected to G/Y instead of G/O. Hooked it up and everything came up! Injector duty and rpm was now go. Doesn't matter how many times you check wiring, you need to check it again.:gay:

The only thing now is that the TPS is still maxing out at 78%.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:25 AM   #6
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go into the parameter setting & select throttle in there you can manually change the voltage reading until it reads 100% but before you do that check that your cable hasnt stretched & you ARE getting wot.

in saying that mine reads 2% open on idle which im gussing is normal

oh & the p&p loom make life a lot easier then trying to wire the thing up yourself & if you ever decide to upgrade or change the ecu you can modify the p&p to suit your upgrade

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Did you calibrate the TPS sensor? Yeah, checking TPS from ODBII would be a good idea too..

If I had it all to do over, I'd have done a PNP.
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I must be so narrow-sited to miss a button that says "clear" in the TPS config menu. I couldn't figure out how to manually type in the max voltage. I tried on the weekend and I tried yesterday, so it kept saying 78%. Had another look today after sprx3 comments (thanks). I actually read the "clear" button (I presumed it said cancel). Pressed clear which changed everything to 0.50v (minimum) and floored it. It automatically set maximum to 3.5v or something similar. Sweet now!

So now i've got injector duty, rpm, tpw, MAF in and MAF out coming up on the graph. Everything's perfect! I borrowed the emanage cable which has to go back today so i'm pretty please that in 4 days, I got everything working perfectly start to finish including doing all the wiring myself.

Big thanks to Nester and sprx3.

As promised, I will do a little wirte up on installing into a 2001+ NB.

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Old 09-18-2007, 09:42 PM   #9
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Now I gotta make up a O2 guage and buy my own greddy cable or source a clone cable. Giligan isn't doing them any more.

Then start tuning! Hopefully my fuel consumption will go down quite alot. Last time I pulled the spark plugs, the had dry cabon build up on them. WAY to rich!
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please do a write up... im not skilled enough to venture on my own!

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Haha Go Beverly!!!
You could have PM'd on Aus Talk...
I woulda been glad to help out.

I thought you had a tuning cable?

Hurry up and get a turbo will ya?
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yah include some pictures in the write up more specifically how you wired in the resistor and jumper settings. I have a '05 and wanna get my EMB on there asap .

Thanks.

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Maybe this helps you !

Found the link on a search for an german emange blue lover, trying to get it work in an 2001+ miata (in germany called NB-FL).

http://bitzoo.com/miata/emanageinstall.html



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Old 09-27-2007, 11:29 AM   #14
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Thats a really awesome write up, but the title on top says

"E-manage Install - 1999-2000 Mazda Miata"

From my understanding the '01+ models require the resistor, which I have an idea on where to wire it into but. But would be very great full if someone could show me a picture confirming it.

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Yes, your are absolutly right. This is for the 1999-2000 NB.

The ecu connector of the newer miata is different.

Have a look here.

http://www.bigbolla.de/forum/2001-miata-emanage.jpg

The resitor wiring should be the similar to the 99-00, you have to use instead of 2L the cable connect to 4X.
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I did the resistor mod, as described in the emanage documentation...

I also had to install diodes between the emanage and my ignition coils..
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Yah I only have the harness and stuff, I don't have the documentation heh.

Right I'm just not sure how to get the resistor connected. cause I have a picture that shows the emanage opened up.

And a resistor goes from the signal maf in pin to a grounding pin.

And when you install a diode do you face it so it only lets signal out and not back in right.
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The emanage documentation is available from greddy.com, also check out http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/

Here's a quip from a 350z forum, which is how I originally heard about the diodes, after blowing two coils..

1N4002 diodes (from Radio Shack - total cost is about $1.29)

DIODES The diodes are installed on the output signal of the ignition wire taps - with the stripe going toward the coils - so AWAY from the factory ECU. This will keep you from burning up the coils.
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For the 01+ models, the settings 3-A-0 (according to the manual) are correct?

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