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MX5Kuro 08-08-2007 02:21 PM

Injector warning!!!
 

Well I got everything ready today and I thought I would give it a try. But the car won't start, with or without the EMU. Probably the increased size of the injectors to 550cc is the problem. I could smell the gasoline, so I think the injectors work. The only thing is that I hear a high pitch comming from the area of the injectors. Don't know if that's normal. Didn't pay attention regarding such a sound with the 'old' injectors. Has anyone a working map for a 1999 with 550cc injectors?

Well I checked the partnumber off the injectors I used. They are RX-7 injectors with partnumber 195500-1370. Last time I checked they were hight imp injectors, but according to this tread https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread...ht=195500-1370 there are high and low imp versions off the injectors with the same partnumber.

So I guess I have to measure the resistance of the injectors. (Was not the easiest part of the project, removing the fuelrail.) Can anyone tell me, if the injectors are low imp. How likely is it that I will have any damage to the electrical system (ECU/EMU)? I tried to start about 5 times and I had the ignition on for about 5 minutes for adjusting the EMU.
Today I removed my intake manifold and checked the injectors. Well they appeared to be 2.6 Ohms so they are low impedance I'm not very happy because I did my research before installing them, so I didn't double check. I hope that I didn't fry my ECU or EMU. I'm posting this message so I can warn you guys... DOUBLE CHECK the injectors with partnumber 195500-1370. I have the purple ones, so colour can be deceiving.

magnamx-5 08-08-2007 02:57 PM

Yep ive done that as well no damage that i know off.

m2cupcar 08-08-2007 04:04 PM

I thought the color differences in the tops where fairly obvious.
I've had at least 16 of the red/purple tops. They all looked like the first example below and were all high ohm.
http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatap...5001370red.jpg

here's what the low ohm by the same number is supposed to look like
http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatap...5001370tan.jpg

idealsociety 08-08-2007 04:57 PM

interesting, im using those same injectors in the build on my 1.8L BP turbo Ford Festiva project along with an EMU, good thing ive been lurking the turbo miata forums or i may have missed this :bowdown:

Mach929 08-08-2007 05:27 PM

yeah i always check impedence when i get new injectors, that way i know if it's worth it to send them out or not to be cleaned, it could either be open or no resistance either way broken.

idealsociety 08-08-2007 10:22 PM

you can still use low impedence injectors right? just need resistors?

Slidin'Miata916 08-08-2007 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by idealsociety (Post 138459)
you can still use low impedence injectors right? just need resistors?

Correct. And someitme their not direct fitted, so you need the clips and solder them.

idealsociety 08-09-2007 12:41 AM

yeah mine are the squared off clips, since the festiva uses the rounded like the BP factory ones i rerouted the festiva injector harness to work on the BP since the clips were the same. i did get the pigtails for em so im all good when i switch over, snagged an extra set of 330cc's from a n old turbo 626 as backup just in case the 550's were crap, got the 550's for 75$

ill be starting a new thread soon in here about some questions i have about using the EMU with resistors and some other stuff BP specific...

SMRACER 08-09-2007 11:11 AM

Don't the high imp have different connectors than the low imp ones?

m2cupcar 08-09-2007 01:23 PM

That can/do - depends on the model injector, and that's where the confusion starts. Those two injectors in my post above, has the same part number and came in the same year rx7 yet Mazda had running change where they went to a low ohm injector. The only visible difference is the color top. Good advice = check 'em with a meter.

MX5Kuro 08-17-2007 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 138581)
That can/do - depends on the model injector, and that's where the confusion starts. Those two injectors in my post above, has the same part number and came in the same year rx7 yet Mazda had running change where they went to a low ohm injector. The only visible difference is the color top. Good advice = check 'em with a meter.

And the color of the low imp when it's new is far more purple than shown on the picture above. So be sure it's the purple kind that is almost red :eek:.

I've soldered the resistors, and will be soldering new connectors, to be sure to have good connections.

I hope the car will start.:bowdown:


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