Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 487432)
Everything's gotta turn into an arguement, huh Ken?
At least with full access to scopes, spare vehicles, and the ability to take apart my car and gather information (which I've posted all over the place) things seem to get ignored until its somehow public enough. The point is, stop arguing over the idle thing, and I'd be willing to help with the VVT project. To quote a couple of happy users of the idle code from msextra:
Originally Posted by Peter Florance
With my current settings, the idle control has been transparent to me, as if I still had my old aux air valve. Except the idle rpm is accurate as well. :)
This has been my goal for closed loop idle.
Originally Posted by UnaClocker
Ken.. The newest S19 you sent me ROCKS.. The idle was so excellent today. I'm very happy with it. Thanks for working with me on this, I'm sure everyone will benefit in the long run.
http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Heads...73_9qNr3-M.jpg You can see the single pulse at the top, and the doublete at the bottom. Anyone: Who's used both systems and can compare the software? It'd be unfair to compare MS-I to adapt, but MS-II... certainly can be overwhelming for someone new... I'd love to hear a comment from someone who actually knows both. So far, it's been "I know this about X and heard that about Y" Ken |
Ken, both adaptronic and hydra put their software on their websites for free. ping me if you need a bare bones map with the NBB triggering setup.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 487559)
Ken, both adaptronic and hydra put their software on their websites for free. ping me if you need a bare bones map with the NBB triggering setup.
Ken |
Actually y8s I don't need the trigger wheel info after all. I was thinking we were using a generic decoder for this wheel for some reason, but it turns out we have a special one for it. All the timing info is already there!
I will probably check out how they do VVT though, but I don't think I'll need trigger wheel settings anymore. Ken |
Y8s
I searched some of your posts and looked at your dyno. "Most Impressive" - comes to mind. Are there some posts that explain your ability to have as you say "cake and eat it too" while only at 9psi. I see a large turbo that spools early and fast and stays spooled. Do you have a build list. Are there any one off parts that make it work so well or can they be sourced? Has anyone duplicated the setup here or have similar numbers under 10psi? I would love to stay under 10 psi and have my torque low and still great top like your dyno shows. |
Hey guys I have a 99 miata with adaptronic running 220hp to the wheels and 200lbs of torque, 750 cc fuels injectors, hp walbro pump, gt870 journal bearing turbo running at 10 lbs of boost, i would be happy with giving out my map if anyone needs it its fully dyno tuned.
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2870, 750 cc's and 220 hp?
WHY?!? You're running twice the injector you need, probably 3 times. Perhaps you're just trying to save the rods but it seems poorly designed. |
Well Firstly AbeFM, with the full functionality of the Adaptronic it doesn't matter what size injectors I have, the Adaptronice gives me full control of any size injector. Knowing this very important fact i purchased the 750cc for the main reason that I could control them but most importantly because it leaves me room for future upgrade of my engine, pistons, rods, etc.= more horespower. And on top of that the 99-00 miatas have no return fuel line meaning that the HP 255 Walbro fuel pump is doing all the pushing, and to add more to that in a returnless fuel line setup the efficiency of the fuel injectors drop to about 600cc, so even though I have 750cc ones it is as if I only had 600cc ones. You understand?
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I guess. I'm sure I could work jewelry with a 5 lb sledge hammer, too.
There's folks on here running over 300 whp on stock internals, and people making that much on 500 cc injectors, so... The 750's don't seem like the best match. I'd be curious what your idle is like - not to say you CAN'T control them well down there, but it is harder. |
I completely agree there are people getting high horsepower with their stock injectors, but since I got the stand alone i figured I might as well get biiger ones for future prospects, no harm done. My idle is perfect, I had my tuner fix it for me
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