Changing years of a Megasquirt
If I wanted to, could I convert a MS3 configured for a 96-97 to a 90-93 simply by changing the pins in the denso connector? Obviously I would need to change settings in Tunerstudio but I'm just wondering if besides settings and pin location, if there's anything different between the na versions of the MS3?
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the difference is only in the harness.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1487059)
the difference is only in the harness.
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the 96-97 has three plugs, the 90-95 only has two
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1487064)
the 96-97 has three plugs, the 90-95 only has two
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Go to mellens.net and get the wiring diagrams for each car. DOCUMENT and UNDERSTAND everything you need to change prior to starting.
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Originally Posted by Cutthroat912
(Post 1487068)
In that case, for the na pnp versions, is the only reason DIY sells different years is because the base tune is different?
the break down is 90-93, 94-95, 96-97, 99-00, 01-02, 03-05 |
Thanks for the info guys!
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I know exactly how to do this and I would never, ever do it.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1487127)
I know exactly how to do this and I would never, ever do it.
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Screwing with the factory pinout like that is just asking for trouble. At some point in the future, SOMEONE will assume it's still the way it's supposed to be and plug in the wrong ECU and boom.
If you want to run an ECU with the wrong pinout, make a short extension harness that reroutes the wires. --Ian |
I may be misunderstanding all of this. I was under the impression that there would only need to be changes to the Ms to make it compatible with my model year. Is this not the case?
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Which MS3 do you have? MS3pro, MS3+MS3x, MS3, MSLabs MS3, MSPNP Pro? This will significantly impact how easy/hard/possible it is to change. If it has a patch harness from a DB37 to Denso connector, then yes, you can modify that harness. If it's a PNP, then it's more trouble than it's worth.
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Originally Posted by acedeuce802
(Post 1487144)
Which MS3 do you have? MS3pro, MS3+MS3x, MS3, MSLabs MS3, MSPNP Pro? This will significantly impact how easy/hard/possible it is to change. If it has a patch harness from a DB37 to Denso connector, then yes, you can modify that harness. If it's a PNP, then it's more trouble than it's worth.
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Check out this build manual that Braineack put together: https://trubokitty.com/#/ms3xassembly
You'll see that the building of the board is common between Miatas (other than a few mods for NB stuff, I forgot if there's any other changes between years), and the bulk of the differences is in the patch harness. |
yeah, just build a new harness.
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Originally Posted by acedeuce802
(Post 1487160)
Check out this build manual that Braineack put together: https://trubokitty.com/#/ms3xassembly
You'll see that the building of the board is common between Miatas (other than a few mods for NB stuff, I forgot if there's any other changes between years), and the bulk of the differences is in the patch harness. |
Originally Posted by Cutthroat912
(Post 1487140)
I may be misunderstanding all of this. I was under the impression that there would only need to be changes to the Ms to make it compatible with my model year. Is this not the case?
Moving pins in the factory wiring harness is relatively straightforward, you stick a tool in the back of the connector, release the catch on the pin, pull it out, and insert it into a different hole. It's just that you've now laid a land mine for the next guy who works on the car. :) --Ian |
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