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Mangezmoer 11-05-2014 11:21 PM

FM voodoo box+saab 9-5 turbo how much boost possible?
 
Hi,
I am waiting for my voodoo box (will hopefully arrive tomorrow) and I was wondering how much boost could I put until the stock injectors wont deliver enough fuel for a safe ratio.

Everything is stock
Saab 9-5 turbocharger

I am expecting to run about 8psi, is that reasonable?

Please no free bashing on voodoo box, I know its not the best but I am building a very cheap setup and I dont expect miracles, juste wanna get the best I can out of it.

Thanks!

18psi 11-05-2014 11:23 PM

all of it

thirdgen 11-05-2014 11:53 PM

I have no idea the size of a Saab 9-5 turbo, but 8 psi? You might be running just over the max for it. The only way you'll know is by monitoring AFR's.
Voo-doo boxes don't control timing cause that's not important.
Correct plugs and gaps mean everything.

Mangezmoer 11-05-2014 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1181071)
all of it

? ..what does that mean?

Mangezmoer 11-05-2014 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1181081)
I have no idea the size of a Saab 9-5 turbo, but 8 psi? You might be running just over the max for it. The only way you'll know is by monitoring AFR's.
Voo-doo boxes don't control timing cause that's not important.
Correct plugs and gaps mean everything.

I already retarded my timing with my cam sensor (easy on a 90-93)

thirdgen 11-05-2014 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Mangezmoer (Post 1181082)
? ..what does that mean?

It means "wastegate?!? You don't need to stinkin wastegate!"

Mangezmoer 11-06-2014 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1181086)
It means "wastegate?!? You don't need to stinkin wastegate!"

... whats the point with the wastegate?? The problem is the limit of the stock injectors+the voodoo box.

Mangezmoer 11-06-2014 12:09 AM

I was talking about the comment "all of it", I did not get it

thirdgen 11-06-2014 12:12 AM

"All of it" means take your wastegate off. The turbo will spool until it can't make any more boost. It's known to voo doo users as "the safety range".

Mangezmoer 11-06-2014 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1181095)
"All of it" means take your wastegate off. The turbo will spool until it can't make any more boost. It's known to voo doo users as "the safety range".

If i do that I'll be running way to lean.. Why does nobody like voodoo boxes? Whats so bad about it?

Spinout007 11-06-2014 04:20 AM

All of it means it will take all of it till it blows. My .02, take it for what it's worth from a lurker. Just so you feel better I am considering a similar setup for my wife's car, but limited to 6 psi with a charge cooler just to be safe. She wants a little more umph, but her driving already scares the crap out of me when she gets pissed.

OGRacing 11-06-2014 08:12 AM

MOORE.

Leafy 11-06-2014 08:24 AM

It should use the same compressor map as this turbo but with a smaller exhaust side. Products | Turbochargers So toss that into your boost plot spread sheet and throw some numbers at it with your engine and see what you come up with. Just keep the air flow under ~14lb/min which is about the limit of the 1.6 injectors at stock fuel pressure.

concealer404 11-06-2014 09:03 AM

Probably all of it. Most definitely some of it.

18psi 11-06-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mangezmoer (Post 1181098)
If i do that I'll be running way to lean.. Why does nobody like voodoo boxes? Whats so bad about it?

You're gonna have to stop being so dumb real soon if you want to enjoy your stay here.

Mangezmoer 11-06-2014 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Spinout007 (Post 1181111)
All of it means it will take all of it till it blows. My .02, take it for what it's worth from a lurker. Just so you feel better I am considering a similar setup for my wife's car, but limited to 6 psi with a charge cooler just to be safe. She wants a little more umph, but her driving already scares the crap out of me when she gets pissed.

Hahaha great
I'll give you news about my results then

turbofan 11-06-2014 08:45 PM

Philippe, are you a native English speaker?

Also: ASK FM, DAMMIT. it's their product. ask them what's safe to do with it.

concealer404 11-06-2014 08:51 PM

Oh yeah I want to hear Jeremy's reply when asked how much boost you can run on a Voodoo behind a hodgepodge of non-FM parts that they don't have experience with.

turbofan 11-06-2014 08:57 PM

Well, boost is boost right? Stock injectors, trubo, all of it.

concealer404 11-06-2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1181320)
Well, boost is boost right? Stock injectors, trubo, all of it.

Well done!

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