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Old 08-23-2010, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default Help with 1.8L M45 Supercharged Big Boost Setup

I am purchasing an M45 Jackson Racing setup with Powercard and Bipes ACU from someone. Now before everyone suggests I go turbo, I really just did not feel like dealing with all of the exhaust work and oil lines of the turbo setup and got a great deal on my supercharger setup.

Do I need to upgrade the fuel pump?

Will the Powercard and Bipes combination allow me to run 8PSI, with base timing of 14BTDC... i plan on having it retard 8 degrees over the RPM range, but was not certain about fuel.

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Fuel pump is just a piece of mind. However, if you feel the need for one, I have a walbro 255 i would be willing to part with for 75 shipped. You will also needz intercooler. I would also suggest selling your powercard and bipes and using it to purchace a megasquirt and 315 supra injectors.
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Those bandaids will get the job done. Fuel pump not necessary.
You will get bored of the weakling powerband within a week.
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Let's hope it's a little longer than a week.

Thanks for the input. I'm scared of upgrading the fuel pump or injectors and creating idling problems. Glad to hear it will work ok as-is. Is the stock around 190 LPH?

I'd rather not go the complete standalone (MS or other) route... as this will add much complexity to the tuning... and how much extra power would I really get?

thx for the input.
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Come back after properly tuning a band aid setup and see if you still think it's less complicated. On my setup, I had to install a fuel pressure gauge and adjust the fuel pressure, go for a drive to test the fuel onset point, go to the passenger foot well to adjust the o2 clamp with a multimeter, which was also where the Bipes was located. This is all hoping that the AFM doesn't need adjusting, because it uses black magic, and I don't have a black magicmeter.
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I'd rather not go the complete standalone (MS or other) route... as this will add much complexity to the tuning... and how much extra power would I really get?

thx for the input.
Thats what i thought too, after going from a bandaid to bandaid and scaring my self after each one i finally bit the bullet and bought an adaptronic unit. I'm going 400 miles away to get it installed. That 1k will go a long way especially when i add an intercooler and bump up the boost a bit.

The bandaids are nice if you are sure you wont upgrade but out of everyone here how many people do u think are still running the same setup as they were originally? How many have been bitten by the bug?
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Let's hope it's a little longer than a week.

Thanks for the input. I'm scared of upgrading the fuel pump or injectors and creating idling problems. Glad to hear it will work ok as-is. Is the stock around 190 LPH?

I'd rather not go the complete standalone (MS or other) route... as this will add much complexity to the tuning... and how much extra power would I really get?

thx for the input.
More than you can imagine
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More than you can imagine
with a proper tune on a standalone with the M45 setup for 8 PSI, what kind of power are people making?

The kit claims to make something like 165-170 hp with thier bandaid for fuel and timing.
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Default Wiring of Bipes + Powercard

Ok, so ran into my first question.. have both the bipes and Powercard... they both connect up to the CAS when wiring... where do i tap into the CAS wire for the Powercard.. before after the Bipes?

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Maybe this will help?? http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/p...ns/999-220.pdf

I didn't really read through it all, but I would imagine they could go in parallel and not matter.

I am also running an M45, but with AEM EMS, AEM map sensor, W/M injection, header back exhaust, custom coldside intake TB relocated to stock position and few other supporting mods. After I got my car tuned, from a certified AEM tuner my car made 190.7whp and 175tq at 5-6ish psi.
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i wouldnt expect more than 160 with nothing but the m45 on there especially when the SC warms up.
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Wow... 191whp on 5-6 psi? That's incredible... i'm shooting for like 160whp with my setup at 8 psi... ok so here's how I believe it should be wired.

I'm really hoping I dont have to go the standalone route...
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He had meth. Among other things IIRC.
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Yeah I saw. So does my wiring diagram look right?
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