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hustler 10-17-2012 09:06 AM

My 4-year old LC-1 is sticking at 15.0 again
 
Output #1 is going to the gauge.
Output #2 goes to MS.

My track car's LC-1 is now sticking at 15.0, 14.9, and 15.1 on output #1, 10.0 on output #2. This happens for long periods of time, maybe hours on a road trip, even after power cycling. I reset and recalibrated last night (fun) with the same result. Any idea what's going on?

Reverant 10-17-2012 09:47 AM

4 years sounds about right for the life of the sensor.

hustler 10-17-2012 10:00 AM

BRB, burning sensor with vodka.

Reverant 10-17-2012 10:04 AM

Joe Perez recommends rum.

hustler 10-17-2012 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 940159)
I recommend ouzo.

Fixed

Reverant 10-17-2012 10:43 AM

I only drink beer.

concealer404 10-17-2012 11:11 AM

Douse in booze. Light on fire.

Acquire AFX.

hustler 10-17-2012 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 940191)
Acquire AFX.

Gigantic controller, stupid rectangular display, single output, overpriced. lol

concealer404 10-17-2012 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 940209)
Gigantic controller, stupid rectangular display, single output, overpriced. lol

Accurate, though, and uses better sensors.

hustler 10-17-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 940217)
Accurate, though, and uses better sensors.

More or less accurate than the Innovate stuff? I want to know what they were thinking when they designed that display. Do they expect me to zip tie it to something on my dash? Really?

concealer404 10-17-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 940220)
More or less accurate than the Innovate stuff? I want to know what they were thinking when they designed that display. Do they expect me to zip tie it to something on my dash? Really?

General consensus among the local tuners/dyno operators is that it's more accurate than the LC1, at least... no anecdotes vs. the MTX-L yet.

That said, they're comparing it against their sniffers, sooo... what's the baseline?

The display doesn't bother me personally, but i also hate having a shitload of round gauges. It's also easy to read.

Braineack 10-17-2012 12:36 PM

probably because it reads just as far off as the stupid sniffers my dyno operators use.

concealer404 10-17-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 940224)
probably because it reads just as far off as the stupid sniffers my dyno operators use.

Chicken vs. egg.

Far off compared to your Innovate, i ASSume?

hustler 10-17-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 940221)
General consensus among the local tuners/dyno operators is that it's more accurate than the LC1, at least... no anecdotes vs. the MTX-L yet.

That said, they're comparing it against their sniffers, sooo... what's the baseline?

The display doesn't bother me personally, but i also hate having a shitload of round gauges. It's also easy to read.

Let me get this straight, a 1"x2" gauge with a numeric display is inferio to a 1.5"x4"x5" that fits in nothing? I appreciate the comment, but it's 50% more expensive, the replacement sensors are 50% more expensive, and the controller is huge and you basically have to zip-tie it somewhere.

hustler 10-17-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 940249)
Chicken vs. egg.

Far off compared to your Innovate, i ASSume?

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hustler 10-17-2012 01:07 PM

I'm probably just getting an MTX-L since all these damn sensors are $80+ shipping.

concealer404 10-17-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 940256)
Let me get this straight, a 1"x2" gauge with a numeric display is inferio to a 1.5"x4"x5" that fits in nothing? I appreciate the comment, but it's 50% more expensive, the replacement sensors are 50% more expensive, and the controller is huge and you basically have to zip-tie it somewhere.

I don't know what kind of display you're using, my mistake. :)

I'm using the Innovate Auto Timer as my display with my LC-1. I'm not in love with it.

Reverant 10-17-2012 01:21 PM

MTX-L for the win.

concealer404 10-17-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 940271)
MTX-L for the win.

I'm with you, for the money.

Braineack 10-17-2012 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 940259)
I'm probably just getting an MTX-L since all these damn sensors are $80+ shipping.


dude no, you can get a replacement sensor for cheap as shit.


want me to send you one to try? i have 2 spares.

hustler 10-17-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 940308)
dude no, you can get a replacement sensor for cheap as shit.


want me to send you one to try? i have 2 spares.

I already have a spare, need a back-up replacement. I keep looking for the VW sensors but not all of the have the same plug. Some Bosch sensors with the LC-1 style plug are not WB (ask me how I know.

bcrx7 10-17-2012 02:50 PM

It's been know the NTK sensor (engine dyno's I know) are more accurate and tend to last longer. I might go this route even though I already have a TechEdge for a while.

Braineack 10-17-2012 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 940313)
I already have a spare, need a back-up replacement. I keep looking for the VW sensors but not all of the have the same plug. Some Bosch sensors with the LC-1 style plug are not WB (ask me how I know.


it's the Bosch 17014 sensor.

go to advanceautoparts.com

search for: 17014

add it to your cart.

type in FABU for a coupon code.

pay $37.99 plus tax and pick it up at your local advance auto parts.


(ask me how i know)

shuiend 10-17-2012 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 940328)
it's the Bosch 17014 sensor.

go to advanceautoparts.com

search for: 17014

add it to your cart.

type in FABU for a coupon code.

pay $37.99 plus tax and pick it up at your local advance auto parts.


(ask me how i know)

+1

I did this a few weeks ago to pick up a replacement sensor. I actually showed up before they had pulled it off the shelf. When I told them what I did they laughed and said it was an excellent idea.

hustler 10-17-2012 03:40 PM

Hell yeah.

(We dont' have "Advanced" here, but I can get that sensor for $70.)

Braineack 10-17-2012 03:47 PM

And here I was going to offer to be your life coach.

hustler 10-17-2012 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 940357)
And here I was going to offer to be your life coach.

My white-male.

EO2K 10-17-2012 04:59 PM

That should be the same Bosch LSU4.2 sensor used by the AEM UEGO. Anyone able to verify?

I don't have Advanced out here either, but I can also get these for $37/ea with free shipping if I buy 2. That's one hell of a deal.

Braineack 10-17-2012 05:17 PM

same sensor, different connector.

EO2K 10-17-2012 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 940432)
same sensor, different connector.

This should prove no issue for my caveman level soldering skillz.

I need to get on the LC-1 train. I have one in the garage, but the motivation is low, and I'm afraid I'll wire it in incorrectly.


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