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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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Default My 4-year old LC-1 is sticking at 15.0 again

Output #1 is going to the gauge.
Output #2 goes to MS.

My track car's LC-1 is now sticking at 15.0, 14.9, and 15.1 on output #1, 10.0 on output #2. This happens for long periods of time, maybe hours on a road trip, even after power cycling. I reset and recalibrated last night (fun) with the same result. Any idea what's going on?
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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4 years sounds about right for the life of the sensor.
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Gigantic controller, stupid rectangular display, single output, overpriced. lol
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Originally Posted by hustler
Gigantic controller, stupid rectangular display, single output, overpriced. lol
Accurate, though, and uses better sensors.
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Accurate, though, and uses better sensors.
More or less accurate than the Innovate stuff? I want to know what they were thinking when they designed that display. Do they expect me to zip tie it to something on my dash? Really?
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Originally Posted by hustler
More or less accurate than the Innovate stuff? I want to know what they were thinking when they designed that display. Do they expect me to zip tie it to something on my dash? Really?
General consensus among the local tuners/dyno operators is that it's more accurate than the LC1, at least... no anecdotes vs. the MTX-L yet.

That said, they're comparing it against their sniffers, sooo... what's the baseline?

The display doesn't bother me personally, but i also hate having a shitload of round gauges. It's also easy to read.
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probably because it reads just as far off as the stupid sniffers my dyno operators use.
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probably because it reads just as far off as the stupid sniffers my dyno operators use.
Chicken vs. egg.

Far off compared to your Innovate, i ASSume?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
General consensus among the local tuners/dyno operators is that it's more accurate than the LC1, at least... no anecdotes vs. the MTX-L yet.

That said, they're comparing it against their sniffers, sooo... what's the baseline?

The display doesn't bother me personally, but i also hate having a shitload of round gauges. It's also easy to read.
Let me get this straight, a 1"x2" gauge with a numeric display is inferio to a 1.5"x4"x5" that fits in nothing? I appreciate the comment, but it's 50% more expensive, the replacement sensors are 50% more expensive, and the controller is huge and you basically have to zip-tie it somewhere.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Chicken vs. egg.

Far off compared to your Innovate, i ASSume?
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I'm probably just getting an MTX-L since all these damn sensors are $80+ shipping.
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Originally Posted by hustler
Let me get this straight, a 1"x2" gauge with a numeric display is inferio to a 1.5"x4"x5" that fits in nothing? I appreciate the comment, but it's 50% more expensive, the replacement sensors are 50% more expensive, and the controller is huge and you basically have to zip-tie it somewhere.
I don't know what kind of display you're using, my mistake.

I'm using the Innovate Auto Timer as my display with my LC-1. I'm not in love with it.
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MTX-L for the win.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
MTX-L for the win.
I'm with you, for the money.
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Originally Posted by hustler
I'm probably just getting an MTX-L since all these damn sensors are $80+ shipping.

dude no, you can get a replacement sensor for cheap as ****.


want me to send you one to try? i have 2 spares.



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