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Old 08-10-2019, 07:19 PM
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Question 1. to 1.6 vvt swap

is swapingmy 92 1.6 to a 99 ot 001 jdm 1.6vvt the over all same as swaping to the 1.8vvt
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my car has 250k on its motor on its last lage i can get the 1,6vvt 200 with paper saying its gor little over 50k im going to go with a v8 or forged 1.8 swap down the road
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This must be fake... please
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no it is very real i can get the 1.6 vvt for next to nothing to keep me on the rode till i have the money for a real swap
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There's no 1.6 VVT.
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I am going to give a genuine response to the OP on the off chance that he is being genuine and from a different country where English is not his first language.
OP, I am not aware of there being an nb6 engine that had vvt. My knowledge was that in Europe there were nb6 and nb8 engines that the rest of the world had. Either engine would not be entirely a plug and play affair since you have a na6 chassis. To use any engine on your stock ecu would require you to keep your cam angle sensor. To use vvt, that would require using the separate cam and crank sensors which won't work on your ecu, so for now give up on that idea.

If you are looking to install a better engine in your car for the time being and run a stock ecu, you can use a bp4w engine and re install your cam angle sensor into the back of the head where the block off plug is and disregard the cam and crank sensors. If money is tight, disregard any idea of a non bp engine swap. If you go ahead with the bp4w swap you will need the engine mounts from the bp4w, an adapter to re use your throttle body on the intake manifold of that engine, a different header... essentially everything in the FM swap kit.

Good luck. your easiest option is likely to be replace your existing engine with another na6 engine.
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Originally Posted by HarryB
There's no 1.6 VVT.
Yes there is it came in the 99-01
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Not true. All 99-05 1.6 NBs are identical in terms of engine, and are non-VVT. I know cause I own one.
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Originally Posted by ducky d jackson
Yes there is it came in the 99-01
No, it didn't.
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Originally Posted by andym
I am going to give a genuine response to the OP on the off chance that he is being genuine and from a different country where English is not his first languageOP I am not aware of there being an nb6 engine that had vvtMy knowledge was that in Europe there were nb6 and nb8 engines that the rest of the world hadEither engine would not be entirely a plug and play affair since you have a na6 chassisTo use any engine on your stock ecu would require you to keep your cam angle sensorTo use vvt, that would require using the separate cam and crank sensors which won't work on your ecu, so for now give up on that ideaIf you are looking to install a better engine in your car for the time being and run a stock ecu, you can use a bp4w engine and re install your cam angle sensor into the back of the head where the block off plug is and disregard the cam and crank sensorsIf money is tight, disregard any idea of a non bp engine swapIf you go ahead with the bp4w swap you will need the engine mounts from the bp4w, an adapter to re use your throttle body on the intake manifold of that engine, a different headeressentially everything in the FM swap kitGood luckyour easiest option is likely to be replace your existing engine with another na6 engine
fixed for OP to read. you have to remember: he's a duck. ducks dont like dots
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thank u and yes it is real and i know a lot more about the engine. its a 99 to 01 1.6 none vvt. the only problem im having is the new 1.6 has a crank shaft sensor and my old has the cam shaft sensor im having trouble finding any info on how to wire it up to work on my ecu iv seen a few only. so i know it can be done do u think u could help
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The NB6 engine will have both a cam and crank sensor.

It MAY be possible to use your old cam sensor on the new head but I'm not sure because we don't see those engines here. If not, you will need to make use of the one already on the new engine.
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any ida where to find the wire diagram the 99 to 01 1.6
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98-00 (NB) 1.6 wiring and sensors are identical to 98-00 1.8 one.
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OP have you come up with a solution to this yet? I am in the same boat. I bought and engine from an online dealer and the description was 99-00 engine. I did not realize the market outside of the USA had a 1.6 in 99-00. I have tried to cancel the order, but if that doesn't play out I'm stuck with it. I had only realized after going through with payment and revisiting the pictures that it said B6.
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You... wait... You want the OP to come up with a solution for something?
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Originally Posted by turbofan
You... wait... You want the OP to come up with a solution for something?
They’re trying to do the same swap. So I’m asking if they found a solution for the issues they will or currently are running into in doing so. Since there obviously isn’t much documentation on it, I will be running into the same problem. So was seeing if they were able to find away to overcome said issues?
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