2001 NB cams...
 

anybody know where to find some badass camshafts for a N/A NB??? I just ordered the fidanza cam gears. Thats not all I wanted but I had trouble finding camshafts :skid:

Maruha.

Ok..so they werent hard to find..about 700 for the pair I see. what else is needed or do these bad boys drop right into the vvti motor

A shim under bucket conversion.

No...because no Miata had VVTi.

Dude...my 2001 has vvti. I can at least point out that much. Im not boosted.

Try Webcam. They should have camshafts for less than $700.00.

A cam swap is not too difficult.

2001 toyota maybe

Hint: Drop the i

Youre retarded.

Youre also going to need EMS, in case you didnt know, which is possible since youre so retarded.

lulz

web cams that ive seen are only for the 99 and 00 models unless there is something you guys know that the sales person does.. got a link??

You are right about that. Wedcam does not show vvt cams available. My bad.

I assume you contacted Integral Cam? I here Integral has a quality product, but I have never done business with them. My next camshaft will come from them. They show 2002 and later camshafts available on their site.

Ya, I called integral a few days ago and they redirected me to someone else who gave me the same answers. "no cams for the vvt miata". I could send mine in to be redone for the price of new billets... FUCK THAT.

Do not be too apprehensive of sending in your cams or a spare set to be redone. All good cam manufacturers are capable of the procedure.

If a billet is not available for a particular cam, the cam manufacturer will reweld material back to your cam and then regrind to make higher lift and more duration. It adds some work on their end, so it is a task that is often more expensive than new cams. If they do it correctly, they can maintain the base circle which makes setting up the valvetrain less of a hassle.

Integral makes VVT cams... they're listed on their website :bang: you fail


1.8 Mechanical Lifter Cam Profiles, 2002-2005 engines with variable intake valve timing

Profile Seat Duration .050" Duration Cam Lift
Stock (intake/exhaust) 242° / 244° 207.9° / 210.4° .370"/.350" (9.40 mm/8.89 mm)
Stage 1 (intake/exhaust) 252° / 254° 213.8° / 215.7° .373"/.365" (9.47 mm/9.27 mm)



Picture of VVT cam on left
http://www.integralcams.com/Miata20.jpg



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well sure, Ive seen all these but I have a 2001 bro....
I do appreciate it but the listing is for 2002-2005... difference?? you seem to know. I had called them and they didnt seem to have anything for me by what they said.

No difference in 2001 and 2002 engine wise.

if so then thats great to know...just wanted to be positive on that

Given the fact that you can't even comprehend a slight year listing and figure out for yourself that even if it says 02-05 but it says "for VVT engines"..knowing that ALL 01-05 1.8L are VVT and are all the same....God only knows how the conversation went when you called them :giggle:

Get with the program...son.



Yeah, you might think I'm being an asshole....but also remember that I am giving you the correct information.

well said asshole :giggle: joke :bowrofl:

i hope your not wrong ;)

hehehehe

Aren't you planning to boost this car? Why are you messing with your cams?

Turbos motors love bigger cams.

Any thoughts on leaving the factory vvt cam alone and just running an aftermarket exhaust cam?

Which is something the Miata community as a whole has never been able to grasp.

This is true, the miata community does seem very fearful to got for anything more than the mildest of cams.

That being said "Turbo motors love bigger cams" is a gross oversimplification.

Even most of the N/A guys don't go much beyond a mild cam grind. I am still waiting for the BP with some huge cams, 9k+ redline, and some serious compression behind it.

Yah the 9k+ redline is hard when even a well built bottom end wont take it.
This aint no honda boy

There is enough room in the pistons to move the wrist pin up in the piston to do a longer rod motor to get the rod ratio a little better, FM does it on their stroker engines, just need to use stock crank with some longer rods. No reason you can't build a high reving BP.

Though its all a moot point anyway, when its cheaper and easier just to boost it.

deck plate

Been done many times over.

Port flow still sucks.


I would love to try some cams. Since I'm using a Hydra, I can get aggressive...but the question is how aggressive can I go on stock valvetrain?
I love the sound of a lopy 4 cylinder...

Forgive my limitless laziness... How much ARE integral's cams? I checked once...

Putting together a VVT head, debating what I want to do. Pretty built bottom end, so I might get some revs out of it. Nothing is more satisfying than a small turbo which can breath and you get all you can out of it without sacrificing spool up - that's one thing "adding boost" doesn't buy you.

BTW - the timing marks on the cam pictured looked funny to me. Shouldn't it be a singlet on one side, doublet on the other? My plan is sort of that - build the motor, drive it, pull the head and upgrade it later. :-) But perhaps now is the time...

Often aggressive cams will 'slow down spool', but this is more an effect of the head pulling in more air more efficiently than the turbo actually hitting lower CFM at a given point. AKA your boost plot will look slightly lazy compared to stock, but your dyno and butt-dyno will know better. More flow at less pressure.

I remeber how cams suddenly became a normal mod to DSMs around about the time that Evos got prevalent. Before that everyone just 'turned up the boost'.

I bow to your superior wisdom - actually, I just like your tagline. :-)

I'm staring at a '99 head and a VVT head, and I've put off finishing the motor for nearly a year over this. Cam for '99 - cheap and proven. Cams for VVT? God only knows. Certainly they will cost most. The only thing working in the VVT's favor: the cams are better than the 99 from the factory.

If you have not already, talk to Sav, as he was talking a good bit about getting more power through the use of VVT recently. My knowledge of the specifics of the two heads is basically 0.

If someone comes up with some sort of VVT control module that works with MS and other systems or maybe just a 'band-aid' type product, I suspect it will be pretty popular.

Edit: Glad you like the tag line. I actually did come up with that myself. Usually I just regurgitate shit.

Most of the time when I have a mouth full of shit, I'll spit it out. Ew.

I think that's what this thread is about, a stand alone controller. It would be spiffy if it "spoke" CANbus, the MS could easily provide all that info instead of the computer reading it itself. Then much more of the time could worry about working in the advance/retard domain instead of in absolute valve position. I might have to really think about this, soon, I'm sure I could write a PID routine on the MS-II to do this, no problem. I'll just have to get off my duff, and have something to test with.

My plan is if there's nothing easy and proven by then, I'll run that.