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vitamin j 01-09-2013 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 966699)
Here in CA we have the idle, the 15, and I think the 25 or 30 or something. So not that much different from yours

Those are set speeds. We have a "simulated drive" so they accelerate and decelerate and rev it up and shift through the gears. They don't just hold it at one speed at very low load. Also, 50-60mph is roughly twice the speed of yours. Thanks though.

Brain, still waiting on that answer. If you don't know I'd rather hear that.

Braineack 01-09-2013 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 966702)
Those are set speeds. We have a "simulated drive" so they accelerate and decelerate and rev it up and shift through the gears. They don't just hold it at one speed at very low load. Also, 50-60mph is roughly twice the speed of yours. Thanks though.

Brain, still waiting on that answer. If you don't know I'd rather hear that.

My car, as it sits right now, could drive to CO, and pass this "simulated drive" test with flying colors.

vitamin j 01-09-2013 03:38 PM

Sweet man come on out! You can stay at my place and smoke my (legal) weed. Hell you could help me tune my car better too!

Maybe you missed the question I asked, if I open the wastegate fully will the turbo be able to build boost? Depends on turbo/exhaust? Depends on how many fairy stickers on my car? Any idea?

Leafy 01-09-2013 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 966706)
Sweet man come on out! You can stay at my place and smoke my (legal) weed. Hell you could help me tune my car better too!

Maybe you missed the question I asked, if I open the wastegate fully will the turbo be able to build boost? Depends on turbo/exhaust? Depends on how many fairy stickers on my car? Any idea?

yES, BOTH OF THESE.

sHIT, LEFT CAPS LOCK ON FROM WORK, MY BAD.

leatherface24 01-09-2013 03:46 PM

I am stunned that this thread derailed into useful emissions testing and not the usual. The OP's first post well, had i seen this thread earlier, it would have been handled accordingly. Now that I am unfortunately late to the party, I will just say this embodies why Florida is amazing

Florida Woman Who Caught Husband Cheating Takes Dump on the Floor, Asks Cops 'What Was I Supposed to Do'

18psi 01-09-2013 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 966707)
yES, BOTH OF THESE.

sHIT, LEFT CAPS LOCK ON FROM WORK, MY BAD.

lol

18psi 01-09-2013 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 966712)
I am stunned that this thread derailed into useful emissions testing and not the usual. The OP's first post well, had i seen this thread earlier, it would have been handled accordingly. Now that I am unfortunately late to the party, I will just say this embodies why Florida is amazing

Florida Woman Who Caught Husband Cheating Takes Dump on the Floor, Asks Cops 'What Was I Supposed to Do'

and the real thread crapping begins:giggle:

karter74 01-09-2013 04:01 PM

This thread hurts my brian.

What I've taken away from this massive thread derailment - Colorado is run by hippy nazis and do 0-60 runs on the dyno where turbos are illegal. But weed isn't.

Brian really hurts

thenuge26 01-09-2013 04:11 PM

That's OK, you can get some prescription joints for that headache.

gesso 01-09-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 966706)
if I open the wastegate fully will the turbo be able to build boost?

For about the same amount of effort and time you put in to this thread, you could have wired your waste gate open and gone for a drive while logging your manifold pressure. Then you would know the answer to your question for sure and not be relying on the speculation of some dudes on the interwebs (very well informed dudes in this case).

vitamin j 01-09-2013 05:05 PM

No doubt, unfortunately it's on a shelf and not under my hood. Just trying to get a plan together because I'm on schedule to have my setup together about 4 months before I'm due for emissions again and I don't want to wait until after. Us Hitler Hippies also have a RapidScreen program which I will try to pass with instead.

Braineack 01-09-2013 05:09 PM

I honestly think youll be able to pass so long as you have a cat and emissions conscience tune.

miata2fast 01-09-2013 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 966700)
They have some AWESOME mountain bike parks. I don't know about the west side, but in Sunny Isles/North Miami Beach there's a park called Oleta. Again not much elevation change, but technical. All about momentum. I loved it because I'm in terrible shape and can't handle the long climbs, but I can do momentum and planning ahead. It was sooooo much fun.

Check out Alafia River State Park in West Central Florida. I have come out of there with broken bones. Good times!

Miater 01-09-2013 06:06 PM

Yes the car will make boost with the gate open. That is, it will get out of vacuum depending on how they treat it on the rollers. That of course depends on your setup. Turbo housing, WG porting, downpipe, backpressure... Adding more fuel doesn't have to mean more bad stuff comming out the back. It's not about you adding more fuel and failing, its about what the car does with it. It's needs to stay close to 14:1ish. Add air and fuel in a linear fashion, together. If done correctly I'll bet you can beat the stock numbers in boost. There's a big difference from making Vett killing power under boost and passing an ass sniffer test under boost but its very possible.

What's the liability if these guys are reving to 5000+ and your car breaks? The factory numbers are not based off of that kind of use anyway.

Why don't you take it to a different county, like out to FM...can you not do that in CO?

In Texas we just buy the sticker or go to another county that doesn't sniff your tail pipe. With all the smog out here the cops can't see the stickers anyway.

Leafy 01-09-2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Miater (Post 966770)
What's the liability if these guys are reving to 5000+ and your car breaks? The factory numbers are not based off of that kind of use anyway.

Speaking of which, one of my firends from CT (where they do butt sniff) had his e30 over heated on the rollers yesterday. The testing computer printout shows like 267*F and the car blew steam and coolant everywhere while on the rollers. I've been waiting all day to here what happens to his baby.

turbofan 01-09-2013 06:30 PM

They'll probably say "sorry schmuck you knew what we were going to do should have made your car out of something other than glass"


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