Originally Posted by JayL
(Post 332561)
My only suggestion would be to tell anyone who wants to talk you out of the 450 rwhp goal to go back to miata.net.
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Originally Posted by thymer
(Post 472828)
+1 It's soooooo close, I can feel it!
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Put some moneys into some stabilization for those high speeds.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 472886)
Thymer was your block ok? We will have a pretty similar setup. There's lots of used hydras for sale now for big discounts. More safety and more power!
How do you like the MS 6 speed? I reeeeeaaaaly like the 6spd/3.63 combo. Once you get used to the different shifter feel it's great. Fourth gear is wonderful and I can only imagine how crazy it will be once I get the HP I'm looking for. I completely want one of those new fastbacks for better aero, giant wing, big splitter, orgasmic |
Originally Posted by thymer
(Post 472944)
... big splitter...
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I really understand where your coming from, people on every miata board there is has been telling me how 250hp will be more then enough for me. They dont seem to understand that these tampa guys do not play games. The last race car i had was an 89 mustang with a 408 and a 300 shot. It never saw the track once, street only and it still got beat on occasion by some of the real big dawgs. my mustang was 2650lbs and made just under 700whp and just over 800ftlbs, it ran dead nuts even with a lowered stretched gsxr 1000 with sprocket, power commander, exhaust, and air shifter from 40mph-145mph. i too would like to be able to give a near stock 1000 a good run from 40-140 and i think in a slightly lightened up miata it would take just over 500whp and decent traction from 40.
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Originally Posted by thymer
(Post 472944)
I reeeeeaaaaly like the 6spd/3.63 combo. Once you get used to the different shifter feel it's great.
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what tranny are you going to use to hold 450whp?
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Originally Posted by mighty mouse
(Post 473365)
what tranny are you going to use to hold 450whp?
I can pick up a pair of Mazdaspeed axles for about $300 but I'm concerned that they're not plug and play with a non-Mazdaspeed diff. Does anyone have any data on that? I think I'll call FM tomorrow; since they posted this pic I hope they have the datas. Flyin' Miata : Projects : Projects in the shop |
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 473430)
I can pick up a pair of Mazdaspeed axles for about $300 but I'm concerned that they're not plug and play with a non-Mazdaspeed diff. Does anyone have any data on that?
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Originally Posted by 1slowna
(Post 473313)
I really understand where your coming from, people on every miata board there is has been telling me how 250hp will be more then enough for me. They dont seem to understand that these tampa guys do not play games. The last race car i had was an 89 mustang with a 408 and a 300 shot. It never saw the track once, street only and it still got beat on occasion by some of the real big dawgs. my mustang was 2650lbs and made just under 700whp and just over 800ftlbs, it ran dead nuts even with a lowered stretched gsxr 1000 with sprocket, power commander, exhaust, and air shifter from 40mph-145mph. i too would like to be able to give a near stock 1000 a good run from 40-140 and i think in a slightly lightened up miata it would take just over 500whp and decent traction from 40.
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I'm having a MSM diff built right now with a 3.6 r&p and OS-Giken LSD, so I should have the Bosch Torsen out of the MSM diff available at some point soon. You need the MSM Bosch Torsen LSD or OSG LSD to use the MSM axles.
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Great looking build.
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I'm late to the thread, and I know its already decided, but I will give my $.02 anyway. I can't understand these 350hp+ Miata's running around. Sure its fun to make turbo power, but its so much damn work to build and keep it running. If I was ever going for that kind of power I would be all over an LS1 swap. That would do away with engine reliability, trans and rear end reliability and gearing. All on a stock and reliable setup with maybe a few little bolt ons. I know, its not the same thing as a boosted BP, but I'm all about simple after dealing with so much bullshit with cars over the years. I hope you get it sorted out and running though. Your goals sound a bit grand to me, but if you have the will to make it happen, please do so. This coming from the guy who has never owned or driven a turbo Miata... :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 473459)
I'm late to the thread, and I know its already decided, but I will give my $.02 anyway. I can't understand these 350hp+ Miata's running around. Sure its fun to make turbo power, but its so much damn work to build and keep it running. If I was ever going for that kind of power I would be all over an LS1 swap. That would do away with engine reliability, trans and rear end reliability and gearing. All on a stock and reliable setup with maybe a few little bolt ons. I know, its not the same thing as a boosted BP, but I'm all about simple after dealing with so much bullshit with cars over the years. I hope you get it sorted out and running though. Your goals sound a bit grand to me, but if you have the will to make it happen, please do so. This coming from the guy who has never owned or driven a turbo Miata... :facepalm:
Swap. One word. So easy to say, sounds so simple. From the FM site: How long does it take you to build a turn-key car? It takes us approximately eight to ten weeks to complete a car, depending on options. There is a waiting list so make sure to book well in advance. Motherfucker. And that's lawd on da mountin Flyin Miata. If I did a swap on my own it would probably take me four times as long. I think we actually have a member here who has already taken over a year on their swap project and he has way more wrenching experience than I do. For the turbo I ubolted shit, bolted shit on, unplugged the factory ECU, plugged up the hydra, and drove. It took me about 16 hours of total work and the most I had ever done to a car before was install coilovers and do brakes. For a swap I'd have to tear out the entire driveline, figure out how to mix and match multi-OEM parts, rewire the fucking car (I don't even know how to use a multimeter) etc. If the option had been around and supported and proven 2 years ago when I installed my turbo, I probably would have seriously considered it. The option was not there though, so I bought the kit with the intention of doing what I am now. At least with my engine swap I'm putting shit back where it came from which is very important to me (so it's easy) considering this is the first car I've ever worked on. For the record, people with swaps are not driving cars with off-the-lot equivalent corvette reliability. If you read the swap forums you'll find people with all sorts of little problems- just like turbo people. I've even read a few LS threads where people have blown their motors. |
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Originally Posted by tehpwnzor
(Post 473451)
Great looking build.
This is not my build thread. Here's the car as of two years ago- no intercooler. Still looks pretty much the same. Attachment 241649 |
Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 473446)
I'm having a MSM diff built right now with a 3.6 r&p and OS-Giken LSD, so I should have the Bosch Torsen out of the MSM diff available at some point soon. You need the MSM Bosch Torsen LSD or OSG LSD to use the MSM axles.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 473510)
I'll have to see how it and the small axles hold up.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 473502)
. . . For a swap I'd have to tear out the entire driveline, figure out how to mix and match multi-OEM parts. . .
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 473502)
Swap. One word. So easy to say, sounds so simple.
From the FM site: How long does it take you to build a turn-key car? It takes us approximately eight to ten weeks to complete a car, depending on options. There is a waiting list so make sure to book well in advance. Motherfucker. And that's lawd on da mountin Flyin Miata. If I did a swap on my own it would probably take me four times as long. I think we actually have a member here who has already taken over a year on their swap project and he has way more wrenching experience than I do. For the turbo I ubolted shit, bolted shit on, unplugged the factory ECU, plugged up the hydra, and drove. It took me about 16 hours of total work and the most I had ever done to a car before was install coilovers and do brakes. For a swap I'd have to tear out the entire driveline, figure out how to mix and match multi-OEM parts, rewire the fucking car (I don't even know how to use a multimeter) etc. If the option had been around and supported and proven 2 years ago when I installed my turbo, I probably would have seriously considered it. The option was not there though, so I bought the kit with the intention of doing what I am now. At least with my engine swap I'm putting shit back where it came from which is very important to me (so it's easy) considering this is the first car I've ever worked on. For the record, people with swaps are not driving cars with off-the-lot equivalent corvette reliability. If you read the swap forums you'll find people with all sorts of little problems- just like turbo people. I've even read a few LS threads where people have blown their motors. |
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 473572)
I fail to see how if you already had the parts stockpiled ready to go, and had the know how and tools to do it, that it would take more than a 2 months of weekend wrenching. I guess it also depends on which kit, as some require cutting and welding, and some do not. Either way, I bet it would come out cheaper and easier in the long run (again, depending on exactly what was being done in each case) by just doing to V8 "swap". Again, not trying to shit on the turbo build or anything, just throwing in my opinion and what I would do. Just thinking of all of the work to build and how much of a pain in the ass it would be for me to maintain a 450-500hp turbo Miata makes me sick. Where as the V8 swap would be some work in the beginning, but once installed, it should in theory be as reliable as any other bolt on LS1 powered car out there, which is pretty damn reliable compared to what a 500hp turbo BP has to be. No worrying about the trans blowing up on you, or the gearing being shit and burning the tires off in second gear (well actually, I bet you could burn the tires off in second... and third and maybe forth), nor worry about blowing a rod out of the block. Maybe its just me though, I like shit to be easy and to be able to have peace of mind when driving.
But If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak. |
Originally Posted by mikef85
(Post 333521)
I'm doing an "all out" street build....I don't expect turbo hayabusa's to keep up with me, at any point.
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800 HP Corvette vs Hayabusa - camera bike is a Ni - Car Videos on StreetFire
this busa is a haybusa.org members bike he goes by over400 runs a little over 400 h/p this would be an average turbo busa |
Inside a 550HP TURBO HAYABUSAs & 230 MPH - Car Videos on StreetFire
this pretty much sums it up for racing busas |
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