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Its amazing how far you're been able to stretch the BP especially in a reasonably affordable manor (based on the $8k estimate on Facebook). At $8k, it makes the K swap a little more temping for those of us who are constant tinkers. If you want a set it and forget it motor setup and are bound by rules to us a BP, this would be a great recipe. Thank you for giving us so many options for getting to more potential out of an affordable platform.
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This is easily a 100hr motor. Fair to make comparisons. The Rotrex + BP combo is the value leader by far when it comes to making power.Take your existing $2500 I/H/E + ECU and add a $4000 Jackson Racing Rotrex kit for 350whp. Done for $6500. Want it to last, add another $3000 for a built long block and run a bit more boost for 400whp @ $10k.
The K swao comes into is own if you are staying N/A and want over 200whp. That can be done for $9-10K.
This 180whp E85 N/A build could be done cheaper. Starting with a bone stock Miata, probably $9K and you would make about 190whp.
K swaps are cost effective as long as you stick with a junkyard long block and are staying N/A. Outside of that a Rotrex +BP makes more power per dollar at anything above about 180whp.
But yeah, milking the last few hp out of a BP has never been cost effective but it does make for a 100hr track motor.
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#231
Hi,
1) Looks like the engine had a flat top intake manifold for the dyno pull? (I don't see that in your parts list.)
2) What would be the impact to HP staying with the OEM cams? The cost of the aftermarket cams is a significant % of the total cost for a BP6D build. This looks like a place to decrease the overall build cost upfront, but fairly easy to add the cams at a later date.
Thank you
1) Looks like the engine had a flat top intake manifold for the dyno pull? (I don't see that in your parts list.)
2) What would be the impact to HP staying with the OEM cams? The cost of the aftermarket cams is a significant % of the total cost for a BP6D build. This looks like a place to decrease the overall build cost upfront, but fairly easy to add the cams at a later date.
Thank you
#232
According to the professionals, using the VICS(US 99-00 and MSM intake manifold) is suppose to increase the midrange torque but takes away from the top end horsepower. The 99-00 intake manifold would probably be better for an autocross and a street car than a car that is being used on a race track.
#233
Hi,
1) Looks like the engine had a flat top intake manifold for the dyno pull? (I don't see that in your parts list.)
2) What would be the impact to HP staying with the OEM cams? The cost of the aftermarket cams is a significant % of the total cost for a BP6D build. This looks like a place to decrease the overall build cost upfront, but fairly easy to add the cams at a later date.
Thank you
1) Looks like the engine had a flat top intake manifold for the dyno pull? (I don't see that in your parts list.)
2) What would be the impact to HP staying with the OEM cams? The cost of the aftermarket cams is a significant % of the total cost for a BP6D build. This looks like a place to decrease the overall build cost upfront, but fairly easy to add the cams at a later date.
Thank you
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According to the professionals, using the VICS(US 99-00 and MSM intake manifold) is suppose to increase the midrange torque but takes away from the top end horsepower. The 99-00 intake manifold would probably be better for an autocross and a street car than a car that is being used on a race track.
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