Best way to go twin turbo?
Which is the best method or way to get twin turbo on my miata swapping engines that are twin turbo or aftermarket twin turbo kits? I like and want twin turbo for its lack of lag. Please do not recommend me turbo kits unless they are twin turbo kits and not single turbo. As for swapping engines make sure you know its a twin turbo engine that fits in the miata engine bay.
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I recommend you not start any new threads till you do some searching. A stupid question like this will not be accepted well from a noob that just joined
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Oh boy, this is going to get ugly.
How much lag do small, single turbo systems, have in your experience? C |
why do you have a crush on twin turbos?
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even i know this is going to be fun and i'm an idiot
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Well first of all I have check the threads everyone seem to be going single, I know what I am doing as I have swapped a 2jzgte in my sc300(my first car 450hp) I forgot to mention I am trying to get the highest hp out of it as I can with no or little lag and its a 1.6L engine right now. So I don't want to stick big turbos that will have a lot of lag to get the high hp I want nor do I want the small single ones as I doubt I can get the high hp as I want. So all I want to know is IS there a twin turbo kit for this car or should I just swap a twin turbo engine and WHICH ones will fit?
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put down the shrooms man, put down the shrooms
and pic up the search button Or, for starters, figure out that inline fours down have seperate cylinder banks... |
Originally Posted by Mushroom King
(Post 381906)
Well first of all I have check the threads everyone seem to be going single, I know what I am doing as I have swapped a 2jzgte in my sc300(my first car 450hp) I forgot to mention I am trying to get the highest hp out of it as I can with no or little lag and its a 1.6L engine right now. So I don't want to stick big turbos that will have a lot of lag to get the high hp I want nor do I want the small single ones as I doubt I can get the high hp as I want. So all I want to know is IS there a twin turbo kit for this car or should I just swap a twin turbo engine and WHICH ones will fit?
Pics or it didn't happen. One guy here has done twin turbos, search TurboTim user. Don't think you'll see advantages worth the complexity of the setup. EDIT: I have never seen a twin turbo KIT for our cars. |
got a problem with a v-8? ls engines will give you at least as much power as any tt i can think of, and they're proven, with kits available
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I also swapped a apsdgfpsoibuje-t8y engine into my car. It was fan-fucking-tabulous and made 1000hp.
Pretty sure no one makes a twin turbo kit for our cars. TurboTim is the only one who's made one as far as I know. So it'll all be custom. The little lag benefit of a twin turbo setup is lost when you divide the number of cylinders spinning the turbo in half. In order for only two cylinders to spin a turbo quickly, you'll have to use small ones. You also need smaller turbos in order to fit them in our small engine bays (please oh please don't bring up remote mount turbos). These small turbos will not generate a huge amount of power. The highest hp Miata's (450hp+) are running either a huge single turbo or a V8. None of them are 1.6. I'm not sure a 1.6 has ever made it much past 400hp. If you're building an engine, which you'll have to do to get past 300-350ish hp, build a 1.8 block and buy FM's $185 conversion kit. oh, and SEARCH |
TurboTim might be selling his twin turbo setup. But its for a 1.8l . Contact him.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 381908)
Pics or it didn't happen.
One guy here has done twin turbos, search TurboTim user. Don't think you'll see advantages worth the complexity of the setup. EDIT: I have never seen a twin turbo KIT for our cars. |
Originally Posted by kewilso3
(Post 381914)
got a problem with a v-8? ls engines will give you at least as much power as any tt i can think of, and they're proven, with kits available
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Jesus tapdancing Christ DO A SEARCH! Plus there is a whole freaking section at miata.net on engine swaps. Try googling V8 Miata.
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I hate to be one of those "go search" guys, but damn man. Go to google, type "V8 Miata" and you'll get like 125,000 hits, that should get you started.
*ZX-Tex beat me |
that sc300 swap is way easier and more common than putting somwthing like that in a miata, plus the sc was designed to fit a v-8.
and there's no way im telling you where to find v8 miata info |
Do a motherfucking search.
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Originally Posted by Mushroom King
(Post 381892)
I like and want twin turbo for its lack of lag.
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NVM someone else on this forum is helping me and guiding me and I like his idea way better than the V8, THREAD CLOSE!
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Quad turbos!!!
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Originally Posted by Mushroom King
(Post 381938)
NVM someone else on this forum is helping me and guiding me and I like his idea way better than the V8
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Originally Posted by pdexta
(Post 381943)
Quad turbos!!!
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I'm feeding a turbo with the compressed air of another turbo, beat that.
Please give us the name of the member helping you, so we can bash him for giving a man a fish. |
Originally Posted by Mushroom King
(Post 381938)
NVM someone else on this forum is helping me and guiding me and I like his idea way better than the V8, THREAD CLOSE!
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Fuck turbos and go twin superchargers.
Why would you swap a 2jz into a car that already had a 2jz? Granted the head is a bit off but lifters and springs will solve that. |
One of these setups is a twin turbo miata 1.8L, the other is a single turbo 1.8L
can you name which is which? http://www.boostedmiata.com/dynos/lars_vs_tim.jpg |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 381948)
I'm feeding a turbo with the compressed air of another turbo, beat that.
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 381948)
I'm feeding a turbo with the compressed air of another turbo, beat that.
sounds like how a true sequential setup works... http://www.whnet.com/4x4/pix/R2S.jpg |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 381966)
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oh shit wait Audi actually does that. Damn, I can't even have dumb ideas when I try!
Looks like the single turbo made 1.5hp less but 24 more ft/lbs. I'll take the torque please. |
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holy catalytic converter batman!
i'd honestly like to see a compound boosted miata.. not two turbos, but a jrsc being fed by a single turbo.. roots power down low, and after the efficiency of the eaton droops off, the turbo takes over and has spooled waaaay up.. awesome hp curve.. (i'm seasoned to eaton blowers, and know their nature... and absolutely despise the amount of heat they generate at high rpms, and thats why i'm ditching the one on my tbird for a turbo setup) |
you would need the cold side supercharger kit to "twincharge" the car and the cold side sc kit is not cheap in the least
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Originally Posted by sinhumane
(Post 382048)
holy catalytic converter batman!
i'd honestly like to see a compound boosted miata.. not two turbos, but a jrsc being fed by a single turbo.. roots power down low, and after the efficiency of the eaton droops off, the turbo takes over and has spooled waaaay up.. awesome hp curve.. (i'm seasoned to eaton blowers, and know their nature... and absolutely despise the amount of heat they generate at high rpms, and thats why i'm ditching the one on my tbird for a turbo setup) |
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i'm planning a v6 swap with a supercoupe engine.. reason behind being here, is i'm turboing my 92 as an inbetween cheapie project while i hoard parts. (at this point, i need martins bits, and a shortblock.... i have a topend and an ecu laying around....
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 382057)
Like dis?
I lold hard. havent seen that before |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 382061)
:bowrofl:
I lold hard. havent seen that before |
in a simple word: EPIC
you sir, are my new hero. back to n00b bashing? oh... wait. *runs for cover* |
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Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 382086)
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Even with some really meaty tires, youd still need a trunk full of bodies to put any power down. Even then you would still probably smoke the tires off.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 381961)
One of these setups is a twin turbo miata 1.8L, the other is a single turbo 1.8L
can you name which is which? http://www.boostedmiata.com/dynos/lars_vs_tim.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/dynoruns/11-15-08/top3_hp.jpg http://www.miatamx5.com/dynoruns/11-15-08/top3_tq.jpg |
oh, and the single turbo setup costs less too.
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where the fuck do these retards come from?
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I bet he is 17-19 and from California... just my guess.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 382121)
where the fuck do these retards come from?
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 382159)
I bet he is 17-19 and from California... just my guess.
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probably sacramento... more than likely....
jus joshin ;) |
btw, you need to add your location to your profile as well.
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Originally Posted by paul
(Post 382116)
oh, and the single turbo setup costs less too.
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Originally Posted by Mushroom King
(Post 381919)
So if you did a useless swap on an SC (the stock 2jz would have been sufficient if you weren't going much over 400hp) and you still didn't put twins on a motor that is basically balanced as two three cylinders explosion welded together, then wtf makes you think it's a good idea to put twins on a four cylinder? |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 382202)
I don't have all the old .drf files at my disposal on my laptop :P
bookmark it Index of /dynoruns |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 382186)
sitting in their daddy's masturbation room little gay boy thinks " ooh, miata is such a sssuper car, I think I'll join its forums"....
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I'm going twin turbo on my new project Miata but it's full time electric.
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I have a project Miata that will be running 1 Stirling engine per wheel. Runs on my fart. May prove to be more costly than gasoline though, since Taco Bell ends up costing me nearly $10 every time I eat there.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 382254)
I only see one turbo there.
So if you did a useless swap on an SC (the stock 2jz would have been sufficient if you weren't going much over 400hp) and you still didn't put twins on a motor that is basically balanced as two three cylinders explosion welded together, then wtf makes you think it's a good idea to put twins on a four cylinder? C |
Here is a little something I did with a Supra last year.
http://images.turbomagazine.com/feat...front_view.jpg |
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