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Morello 07-08-2015 08:04 PM

Bolt on VVT swap dyno
 
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Well I put the Miata up on the dyno today. Mustang dyno in Greenville SC.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436400248

Quite a bit more than I was expecting honestly, and it makes me wonder if the dyno wasn't reading a bit high. It's a brand new Mustang dyno, though, and when they were calibrating last week it read exactly 10% lower than the Dynojet across town, which is the NASA-advertised amount. 139hp uncorrected, but it was about 95 degrees today. Car details:
95 chassis
MS3 Basic ECU
02 junkyard engine (52k miles)
UK square top manifold
3d printed air intake (Cold Air Intake)
racing beat header + no cat
used borla catback

Spent about 2 hours fiddling with the tuning and was able to pull about 2 extra HP out of it through increasing VVT target on the high end a couple degrees but that's about it. Ignition timing was spot on from the Reverent base map - any more or less and it lost power. VE settings were pretty spot on from using VEAnalyze on the road.

Car feels great! Cheers, and thanks all for the help!

And a video:
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Dunning Kruger Affect 07-10-2015 09:30 AM

The NC/SC VVT swap crew grows stronger...

shuiend 07-10-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect (Post 1247915)
The NC/SC VVT swap crew grows stronger...

I am about to drop a VVT motor in to one of my 94's tomorrow.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436535489

Morello 07-10-2015 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1247918)
I am about to drop a VVT motor in to one of my 94's tomorrow.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436535489

Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.

cyotani 07-10-2015 10:08 AM

<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>

shuiend 07-10-2015 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Uncle Humjaba (Post 1247919)
Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.

I have been there and done that several times now. I purchased the house I am in simply because of the garage.

Morello 07-10-2015 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1247925)
<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>

Take a look at the link in the OP. I drilled a hole in my maf sensor and installed the iat sensor there. It heat soaks a little but it runs fine after about 30 seconds. I bought the hoses, clamps and filters off amazon for about $80 altogether and got the 3d printed part in one piece from makexyz for $82.

Dunning Kruger Affect 07-10-2015 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1247925)
<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>

https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...-miatas-76193/

asmasm 07-10-2015 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect (Post 1247915)
The NC/SC VVT swap crew grows stronger...

Some day I will get my VVT engine into the car.


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1247925)
<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>

You did the CFD on this.

Braineack 07-10-2015 12:12 PM

nice results! there's 1.8L supercharger guys that can barely get that...

cyotani 07-10-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by asmasm (Post 1247941)
You did the CFD on this.

</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>LOL. Just didn't see the pic of it. Looks like the intake is working well.&nbsp;</p>

arghx7 07-10-2015 04:35 PM

Bolt on VVT swap dyno
 
Screenshot of the vvt map possible?

Morello 07-10-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by arghx7 (Post 1248039)
Screenshot of the vvt map possible?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436571468


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1247987)
<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>LOL. Just didn't see the pic of it. Looks like the intake is working well.&nbsp;</p>

Yep, seems so. Looking around at other VVT engine dynos, mine seems to pull really hard up top. A combination of the intake and square top, I'm sure.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436571468

asmasm 07-11-2015 02:14 PM

Did you gut the maf before running the IAT sensor into it?

Morello 07-11-2015 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by asmasm (Post 1248185)
Did you gut the maf before running the IAT sensor into it?

Yep.

AlwaysBroken 07-14-2015 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Humjaba (Post 1247919)
Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.

HOLY SHIT THE OIL PAN FITS INSIDE THE WHEEL.

I feel like a retard for not thinking of this.

gjsmith66 07-14-2015 03:15 PM

Mind posting screenshot of Spark Advance Table as well? Thanks.

Morello 07-14-2015 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gjsmith66 (Post 1248921)
Mind posting screenshot of Spark Advance Table as well? Thanks.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1436930499

noname4me 07-23-2015 09:11 PM

Nice dyno numbers... Torque curve looks fairly flat without the typical mid-rpm dip that stock Miata's tend to have.

I am surprised to see 9 degrees of intake cam advance on the top end. Did you try lower values like 5 or 0 degrees? Most tgreads on this forum covering VVT tuning suggest reducing advance to 0-5 degrees above 5500rpm. Assuming that you did try less advance and the dyno showed less power, any idea why your setup likes the additional high RPM advance? (It does go against the theory of adjustable intake cams, not just forum posts...)

Thanks

Ben 07-23-2015 10:01 PM

<p>You have 2 rows in your ignition table set at 100kpa load.&nbsp; Set your top ignition load row over 100kpa.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'm super jealous of your power.&nbsp; I think we need some drag times to substantiate.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; My very similar build makes &lt;120whp on our dynapack.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>


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