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Old 07-08-2015, 09:04 PM   #1
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Well I put the Miata up on the dyno today. Mustang dyno in Greenville SC.


Quite a bit more than I was expecting honestly, and it makes me wonder if the dyno wasn't reading a bit high. It's a brand new Mustang dyno, though, and when they were calibrating last week it read exactly 10% lower than the Dynojet across town, which is the NASA-advertised amount. 139hp uncorrected, but it was about 95 degrees today. Car details:
95 chassis
MS3 Basic ECU
02 junkyard engine (52k miles)
UK square top manifold
3d printed air intake (Cold Air Intake)
racing beat header + no cat
used borla catback

Spent about 2 hours fiddling with the tuning and was able to pull about 2 extra HP out of it through increasing VVT target on the high end a couple degrees but that's about it. Ignition timing was spot on from the Reverent base map - any more or less and it lost power. VE settings were pretty spot on from using VEAnalyze on the road.

Car feels great! Cheers, and thanks all for the help!

And a video: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1637889726448399&pnref=story
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The NC/SC VVT swap crew grows stronger...
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I am about to drop a VVT motor in to one of my 94's tomorrow.

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I am about to drop a VVT motor in to one of my 94's tomorrow.

Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.
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<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>
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Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.
I have been there and done that several times now. I purchased the house I am in simply because of the garage.
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<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>
Take a look at the link in the OP. I drilled a hole in my maf sensor and installed the iat sensor there. It heat soaks a little but it runs fine after about 30 seconds. I bought the hoses, clamps and filters off amazon for about $80 altogether and got the 3d printed part in one piece from makexyz for $82.
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https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...-miatas-76193/
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Some day I will get my VVT engine into the car.

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<p>Nice results. pics of the cold air intake please.&nbsp;</p>
You did the CFD on this.

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nice results! there's 1.8L supercharger guys that can barely get that...
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</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>LOL. Just didn't see the pic of it. Looks like the intake is working well.&nbsp;</p>
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Screenshot of the vvt map possible?
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<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>LOL. Just didn't see the pic of it. Looks like the intake is working well.&nbsp;</p>
Yep, seems so. Looking around at other VVT engine dynos, mine seems to pull really hard up top. A combination of the intake and square top, I'm sure.
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Did you gut the maf before running the IAT sensor into it?
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Did you gut the maf before running the IAT sensor into it?
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Oh, what I would have given to have a garage like when swapping mine. I had to do mine in a single car apartment garage.. Fitting a Miata, extra engine and trans, cherry picker, all my tools and spare parts in a one car garage was a challenge in itself.
HOLY **** THE OIL PAN FITS INSIDE THE WHEEL.

I feel like a retard for not thinking of this.
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Mind posting screenshot of Spark Advance Table as well? Thanks.
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Nice dyno numbers... Torque curve looks fairly flat without the typical mid-rpm dip that stock Miata's tend to have.

I am surprised to see 9 degrees of intake cam advance on the top end. Did you try lower values like 5 or 0 degrees? Most tgreads on this forum covering VVT tuning suggest reducing advance to 0-5 degrees above 5500rpm. Assuming that you did try less advance and the dyno showed less power, any idea why your setup likes the additional high RPM advance? (It does go against the theory of adjustable intake cams, not just forum posts...)

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<p>You have 2 rows in your ignition table set at 100kpa load.&nbsp; Set your top ignition load row over 100kpa.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'm super jealous of your power.&nbsp; I think we need some drag times to substantiate.&nbsp; &nbsp; My very similar build makes &lt;120whp on our dynapack.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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