BP Head Lifting
FYI, ARP changed the spec on the washer included in the standard head stud kit at some point last year. I had started to re-use the OEM washers when I opened an ARP package and found a much larger (OD) washer. They also revised the recommended torque spec down from 80ft.lb to 65ft.lb.
FYI, ARP changed the spec on the washer included in the standard head stud kit at some point last year. I had started to re-use the OEM washers when I opened an ARP package and found a much larger (OD) washer. They also revised the recommended torque spec down from 80ft.lb to 65ft.lb.
Hmm. I'll be testing this pretty soon, mine are at 65 ft*lbs with a calibrated wrench and I'll likely be over 500whp. I hit 490 something whp last year and didn't lift a head, but should be well above that with my new setup.
Pmax is directly related to ignition timing. Enrichment has a negligible impact on Pmax. It is common that Pmax will increase as you decrease load from WOT (at the same engine speed) simply due to the additional IG advance.
Checking in with a head lifting issue here.
Rotrex c30-74 10psi
e85
85mm 11:1 pistons with 60 thou decked head.
Cometic gasket
Arp studs with updated bigger washers torqued to 72lbs
ill get about 40 laps before the coolant pushes into the overflow tank.
Rotrex c30-74 10psi
e85
85mm 11:1 pistons with 60 thou decked head.
Cometic gasket
Arp studs with updated bigger washers torqued to 72lbs
ill get about 40 laps before the coolant pushes into the overflow tank.
I've had zero issues since using the bigger washers and high torque on the head studs has had a few runs up to 40psi as well, have just changed the ECU package, and have put a set of 272 cams in, so I'll see if it stays fine when it's tuned again, hopefully get close to 400 4wheel kws
Also what power and torque do you think you will make? This only became an issue when we got to around 500 engine hp
After coolant pushes in, what are you doing? Pulling the head and replacing the gasket? Are you replacing the studs at the same time?
--Ian
My ecr is up there with your motor but I’m willing to bet my dynamic compression is higher. Boost psi and hp are not the sole determining factor of head lift.
coolant pushes so new gasket and new studs with a hot retorque. Head and block were both straight machinist straight edge and feelers. Both are as they were when decked.
The hot retorque did yield almost A quarter turn! And yes my multiple tq wrenches are in spec.
coolant pushes so new gasket and new studs with a hot retorque. Head and block were both straight machinist straight edge and feelers. Both are as they were when decked.
The hot retorque did yield almost A quarter turn! And yes my multiple tq wrenches are in spec.
I run a similar setup to you without issues. I am running stock MLS head gasket, ARP studs and big washers. It’s been a long time but I don’t think we did 70lbs on the torque. I want to say 53lbs.
Go go back to the basics. You mist be missing something.
Go go back to the basics. You mist be missing something.
Coolant pushing into overflow tank is a symptom more of overheating than head lifting. Think generating steam and rapid expansion in the cooling system.
Arp reccomends 65lbs so I’m not far off. If anything once you add the extension and an adapter 70lbs ends up being a bit less.
It cracks me up how the community is so stuck in a “it can’t be” attitude when it comes to stuff like this.
I blew up a modded oem gasket and the cometic now. Our setups are similar is true but the motors are completely different in a few major ways.
Arp reccomends 65lbs so I’m not far off. If anything once you add the extension and an adapter 70lbs ends up being a bit less.
It cracks me up how the community is so stuck in a “it can’t be” attitude when it comes to stuff like this.






