EFR turbo le why u gotta b such a BITCH
 

Soviets efr turbo.

Snapped at the turbine at the shaft

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http://s95367906.onlinehome.us/photo...t/DSC_0710.jpg

I want to rub this all over your face in the most homoerotic way.

bitch


*on a serious note: condolences to soviet and hope he gets it replaced for free.

Wtf? That sucks. How does that happen?

Faefae.

If the wheel is out of balance, those speeds will flex and fatigue the shaft in short order.

Borg does balance their shiz. I thought


Super thick turbine shaft fail.

Good bye ultra baller turbine wherrl

how did you fit your sawzall in there?

Happend during autocross run. Was in boost and I heard a little noise and boost was gone. It was not a loud SNAP and actually took like 5 seconds to realize there was no boost (lol).

Housing looks clean with no signs of scratches or anything. I'll take the turbo out later today and take moar pics.

Gonna talk to Full Race tomorrow because *APPARENTLY* its still on warranty. Purchase date is June 16, 2011.

where is that picture the nutswingers kept posting comparing the borg shaft vs garrett shaft?

So Fae what were saying about EFR being godly and never breaking? He was not even on track and it broke.

forreal. I don't think I've yet to see even a cheapy eBay turbo fail so hard. :loser:

I thought that maybe some object made it through the combustion chamber, but then I would have a broken blade - not a missing turbine wheel.

No i was talking about airwerks not efr

And not even any flat shiift or launch control!!

Airwerks are so cheap and awesome.

I would never buy an EFR just because they cost twice what they should. Like the idea behind them though.

For the record my comments aren't meant to say that the EFR sucks, just that people are over hyping them WAY too much and only time will tell if they'll really prove to be a success or a giant failure.

Mine are. :D

I dunno, I just can't justify 2+ grand on a turbo that an 800 dollar one and 200 dollar wastegate and 200 dollar BOV can perform as good as.

It's all in a neat little package, sure, but that means nothing to us since we are blessed with room in our engine bays.

Welllll it DID spool realll nicely. Gt30 power with GT25 spool is win

I'll give it that.

Its also closer to $1500 than 2 grand. I'm happy that everything else is fine. Everything I actually planned for is working out.

Unfortunately I DID NOT PLAN FOR MY TURBINE WHEEL TO SHEAR

Not for an 8374 :)

I've already pretty much planned my 2J build, just need to you know... Buy parts and actually do stuff to the car. When I was planning I took my sweet ass time deciding what turbo to go with, and an EFR8374 was like 2200 bucks for twin scroll with wastegate.

Crappy luck about the turbo, the faster you rebound from a fail the better it will be.

Welllll it DID spool realll nicely. Gt30 power with GT25 spool is win

Such an ethereal picture. Looks like turbo went to heaven.

Lookks like dat turbi got up on mah DaIck

added a poll to this thread.


anways, IHI must build these turbos...this is what happens in the MS Miata all the time if you rev it up too much...i think that's why it only has a 6500RPM limiter.

voted

le sigh.

you never found the wheel?!

Nope. I'm 95% sure it was mostly intact because for the next 50 miles there was some rattle in the exhaust. It stopped about 10 miles from home (turbine wheel was freeeeeeee!)

You know I banned him last week. You were the one who went an unbanned him.

:) reminds me of when I ingested a screw...no way in hell you couldn't miss that noise and I know exactly when it left the engine, turbo, and exhaust...but no missing turbine blades, just bent one slightly and caused the shaft to bend as well.

i know, i feel like a bitch.

when this happened, the passenger didn't even hear anything. I heard a small *pop* that's it. It made no extra noises afterwards, just a little bit of rattle when the car was starting.

Hay now i need helpz gettn my trans in

I mean out

Hay now i need helpz gettn my trans in

I mean out

Plus my thread title is both witty and hip
With the colloquial language of the common man

What u got against the coommon man???

it's stupid, retarded, overplayed, and makes you come off as even more of a retard.

U also mispeld moron

noban

Well at least you know your exhaust is free flowing...

:rofl:
I know, right? EFR needs to include mesh screen to catch all the parts that fall off :vash:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1338821829

I can't see the pic and I'd like to facebook ----- this thing.

Hahaha the domain I use sometimes gets flagged as spam. Thanks 1&1.

Here's the same image from my own domain -
http://gaiazov.com/photo/mt.net/DSC_0710.jpg

please spread the joy.

And

I Haz turbo

Isnt retarded? And doesnt use internet pidgen?

U jus mad cus i get more hits than u

There's a time and place for memes. you bring this site down to a level only people from FL can understand.

I can haz le dumb?

A+++ read would read again
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/455518-efr-...c-failure.html

Also this -
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...nces-yet/page2

And then this
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...st__p__6113698
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...tach_id=366667
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...tach_id=366664

I'm guessing I'm one of the latter ones with this issue.

I really do hope your replacement/exchange goes smooth and drama free.

Because 9 times out of 10 it doesn't

Right now the only thing I fear is waiting for months on a new turbo due to supply issues. I don't think there will be issues with replacement considering the information I just dug up.

The last 6 digits of my serial number is 110025. I think it's safe to say my turbo is #25.

Have them replace it with #69

So what did full race / borg say?

I called them then emailed the picture/video.
I'll call them back later if I don't hear by like 5pm (3pm their time).
Basically I want to know if I can make my (already paid for) track day June 23-24.

Tell them you are KGB.

:hustler:

Just to update this thread.

I talked to Jon @ Full Race yesterday and promised me an RMA. I called him up again today, and sure enough, he sent me the RMA information. Now I just have to send the broken turbo. That's taken care of and went very smooth (so far!). Expected delivery date for replacement is Mid-August - a date which I'm pessimistic about. I'm a consultant, I know how estimates work.

If you read my thread, you know that Bryce offered to sell me his BNIB EFR6258 since his project is taking forever.

So while on the phone with Full Race, I asked - how I would ensure that Bryce's turbo has the turbine wheel issue fixed?

Short answer - you don't. I was told that there have been no new EFR turbos in the country since approximately Fall 2011. That means every EFR 6258 turbo out there is possibly subject to this spontaneous failure. I didn't inquire if this issue affects the larger frame turbos.

What am I going to do? I'm not sure. I'm going to drink a little bit more liquid courage and probably buy Bryce's turbo anyways. I mean, what's another $1500 into a 5-digit budget project, right?

Bryce's turbo is serial 110021. Mine is 110025.

It's fine that you can't justify it, but get your facts right. It's a $1450 turbo, not a $2000 turbo. It doesn't perform "as good" as an $800 turbo - the cheapest Garrett DBB is $1k, and the EFR knocks it out of the park. No Garrett turbo comes close to the same combination of low-end torque and high-end power.

I'm not expecting people to cross-shop them against Chinese turbos, but they are worth every penny of the $1450 BW asks for them.

Also I would like to say that I love EFR to death. Garrett actually sent me an email saying that want to help me out and that a GTX2860R would fit my application. I could do it (probably get a cheap-ish GTX that hasn't been out for 3 months yet). But frankly, I would have a sucky 40-year old technology internal wastegate that wouldn't satisfy my 30psi goals. I would have to get a BOV. I would have to go back to the garage and get dirty.

I just did 5 months of that and I *don't* want to go back. I want to drive my car. Next week. It's glorious. It makes me happy. Sourcing a fabricator to weld a BOV fitting doesn't make me happy. Waiting for parts doesn't make me happy.

I really wish there was more transparency in this issue so at least I could plan for it and be ready. As of right now I'm stuck dead in the water with my only options being
a) bleed money
b) go with a sub-par setup (personal opinion)

I like Garrett and would totally rock the hustler setup. But that means drilling inconel bolts for safety wire. Getting an EWG welded onto my manifold. Getting an EWG pipe welded to downpipe. Getting a BOV. I'm tired. I don't have a lot of money left. I have a house that I just bought and it needs maintenance (for real).

FYI, that's the most accurate date I've heard in months. Last time I talked to FR was in the spring, and they were quoting "4-8 months".