Fitting Crankshaft Sensor To A Mk1 1997 Uk spec
Hello i have a 1997 mk1
i want to install a crankshaft sensor, due to having issues with starter kickback when cold. from what i understand i need a mk2 crankshaft pulley boss and crank sensor installed on the oil pump i will be using a 36-1 or 36-2 wheel i understand that i wire the crank sensor into my factory wiring for the cas, what i want to know is what do i do with the cas, can i unplug and let the megasquirt ms2 just run off of the crank signal, and not utilise the cas Thanks |
Originally Posted by naw43
(Post 1566068)
i want to install a crankshaft sensor, due to having issues with starter kickback when cold.
Can you attach your tune and a log of the starter kickback happening? |
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I was under the impression that the cas isnt very accurate during start up
tune and log attached attached the battery voltage drops quite low, i have just changed the battery out but haven't logged since Thanks |
Try negative numbers on your cranking advance
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1566069)
Why do you think a separate crankshaft sensor is going to fix this?
Can you attach your tune and a log of the starter kickback happening? |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1566071)
Try negative numbers on your cranking advance
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1566071)
Try negative numbers on your cranking advance
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1566074)
MS2/MS3 firmware. This is a known issue on wheels that have few teeth, the timing is sometimes wrong and results in starter kickback. Installing a 36-2 crank wheel completely solves the issue.
If i run the 36-2 wheel what do i do with the cas, can i just unplug it (just use the crank side for the crankshaft signal coming from the cas plug) on tunerstudio do i run as sparkmode 36-2 , any other changes Thanks |
Cut off the inner two teeth, cut off 3 out of the 4 outer teeth,then you can run sequential injection and ignition again.
Edit: 36-2 is reserved for the 99-05 with the factory cam sensor. You will need to run Toothed Wheel mode, set Dual Wheel with missing tooth, then set number of teeth to 36, missing teeth to 2. Main wheel set to crank speed. |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1566079)
Cut off the inner two teeth, cut off 3 out of the 4 outer teeth,then you can run sequential injection and ignition again.
does it matter which three teeth i remove. what settings do i need to change once i have modified the cas Thanks |
The inner teeth (two) are the "Cam" signal but this doesn't matter, you will be cutting wires anyway to do this mod. So you will use one of the four outer teetth (which are normally the "Crank" teeth) and use the crank trigger as the actual crank teeth. I've given you a basic guideline above, you'll need to figure out the rest.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1566085)
The inner teeth (two) are the "Cam" signal but this doesn't matter, you will be cutting wires anyway to do this mod. So you will use one of the four outer teetth (which are normally the "Crank" teeth) and use the crank trigger as the actual crank teeth. I've given you a basic guideline above, you'll need to figure out the rest.
how do i know which teeth to remove out of the four which one will i leave alone. would it be possible to use a nb valve cover with cam sensor on the cam wheel |
Originally Posted by naw43
(Post 1566086)
Ok will give it a go
would it be possible to use a nb valve cover with cam sensor on the cam wheel |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1566087)
Yes, that would be easy to do. You will need to get a valve cover, sensor, connector and a NB intake cam gear (has the teeth the sensor reads). You will get 12V and ground for both sensors (crank/cam) from the CAS, and route the signal from each back to the CAS connector wiring. Then use the Miata 36-2 mode and you're golden. One thing to note - you really do need to get the FM 36-2 wheel, not ANY other 36-1 or 36-2 wheel. Using any other wheel may not work.
thanks for the advice/help |
Have you tried increasing the skip pulses with the CAS (in conjunction with reduced crank timing)?
tried to upload SS of the TS field, but the uploader keeps stalling at 90%. |
Originally Posted by Ted75zcar
(Post 1566127)
Have you tried increasing the skip pulses with the CAS (in conjunction with reduced crank timing)?
tried to upload SS of the TS field, but the uploader keeps stalling at 90%. |
Reduced the cranking advance to - figures made an improvement but still noticeable.
changing the skip pulses didn't improve anything. Have decided to go down the nb cam sensor route |
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