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90 Turbo Jan 13, 2012 12:18 AM

Found a 03 1.8 for 750 is that a good deaal
 
Ok So a buddy with a 2003 1.8 engine from a miata for 750 with 69k miles. Is this a good deal for a transfer into a 1.6 with a ms diypnp.
Should I jump on this. Any pitfalls I need to know about?

thirdgen Jan 13, 2012 12:34 AM

An 03 1.8 engine has a VVT head, so you need a way to control VVT.
Your 1.6 tranny won't bolt up to a 1.8 either.
If your goal is 200whp like in your signature, that 1.8 with your 2554 turbo would easily make 200 whp. I'd say around 9psi of boost?

90 Turbo Jan 13, 2012 12:41 AM

I have a 97 1.8 trans bolted to my 1.6 now. Is the 01-05 different?

thirdgen Jan 13, 2012 12:47 AM

The 1.8 trans bolts up to the 1.6? Really? I thought the bellhousing was different?

90 Turbo Jan 13, 2012 12:58 AM

No it bolted rigt up. Do you think its a good deal?

thirdgen Jan 13, 2012 01:04 AM

Can you hear it run? Also get a compression / leakdown test.

Faeflora Jan 13, 2012 01:51 AM

Why bother? Just turn up the boost and run 15psi.

mr_hyde Jan 13, 2012 02:20 AM

OP - most of your gear will bolt up to the 1.8 including the transmission but there's a bit more involved in the transplant. You will need a new exhaust manifold for starters. The VVT controller is necessary which really means you need to get a real computer to run everything. $750 for a motor isn't a steal but I've heard of worse. FM sells a kit for 1.6 -> 1.8 conversions so take a look at that parts list...

ScottFW Jan 13, 2012 02:50 AM

That price is decent for a known-good VVT engine. I got my complete 01 motor for $400 but it came from a car that took a front end hit and had a few cracked or bent accessory parts, though no apparent damage to the important stuff (block, head, VVT parts). I couldn't see it run, but it only had 35K miles on it and turned over fine by hand. The price was low enough to take a shot, and drive 4+ hours each way to get it.

If you cruise craigslist long enough you'll see VVT motors listed from about $700 on the low side up to about $1200 if the seller doesn't mind keeping it as a garage ornament.

Savington Jan 13, 2012 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 819452)
The 1.8 trans bolts up to the 1.6? Really? I thought the bellhousing was different?

For your sake, I hope you're trolling this guy.

90 Turbo Jan 13, 2012 09:49 AM

OK. So the MS2 DIYpnp with the vvt contoler will control this thing right?

Some on mentioned a real computer. I assume a ms2 is what they are talking about right.

thirdgen Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM

You mean the bipes ACU isn't a real computer?

Bond Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 819592)
You mean the bipes ACU isn't a real computer?

lol You were srs the first time, now you're just yankin' it.

Faeflora Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM

f f f f 15 PSI AND REAL EXHAUST /THRED

Braineack Jan 13, 2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 819478)
Why bother? Just turn up the boost and run 15psi.

Best post of the day.

:brain:

90 Turbo Jan 13, 2012 04:41 PM

I have purchased a ms diypnp the other day/. And in order for no one to grab the deal of craigslist before me I mis listed the price. I paid 400 for the engine. Looks fine and it spun smooth other than the compression parts. has a clutch and cop attached as well as purple injectors. maybe they will be worth something to some one and I can make up some of the price or use the cop things myself some how.


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