I think i need a rebuild
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So i was seeing some oil smoke coming from the exhaust. I thought that it was coming from the turbo from that time that i accidental kinked the drain line. No such luck, here are the number from my compression test: 166,159,156,167
then i put a tbsp of oil in each cylinder and i got this: 186,177,175,190
I think the rings are just about shot.
So, how much have i screwed up this 78k mile engine?
Is this now a ticking time bomb?
How much longer will this thing last?
Should i just drive at super low boost (WG wired open)till i can afford a new bottom end?
Suggestions?
then i put a tbsp of oil in each cylinder and i got this: 186,177,175,190
I think the rings are just about shot.
So, how much have i screwed up this 78k mile engine?
Is this now a ticking time bomb?
How much longer will this thing last?
Should i just drive at super low boost (WG wired open)till i can afford a new bottom end?
Suggestions?
So i was seeing some oil smoke coming from the exhaust. I thought that it was coming from the turbo from that time that i accidental kinked the drain line. No such luck, here are the number from my compression test: 166,159,156,167
then i put a tbsp of oil in each cylinder and i got this: 186,177,175,190
I think the rings are just about shot.
So, how much have i screwed up this 78k mile engine?
Is this now a ticking time bomb?
How much longer will this thing last?
Should i just drive at super low boost (WG wired open)till i can afford a new bottom end?
Suggestions?
then i put a tbsp of oil in each cylinder and i got this: 186,177,175,190
I think the rings are just about shot.
So, how much have i screwed up this 78k mile engine?
Is this now a ticking time bomb?
How much longer will this thing last?
Should i just drive at super low boost (WG wired open)till i can afford a new bottom end?
Suggestions?
Those aren't terribly "out of spec" numbers and they are fairly consistent. I know new is ~190psi but I recall acceptable being as low as 140psi (correct me if I'm wrong). Is there much oil burned? It's only going to get worse and you'll rapidly accelerate the problem with the application of boost.
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it is roughly 1/4 to 1/2 qt every thousand miles. I noticed it today quite a bit when decelerating off of the interstate. The smoke might be a combination of rings and turbo. How would you suggest i go about checking to see if the turbo is the issue?
I doubt its the rings. I had a freind with 90 psi comp on all cylinders and it still did not smoke. I test drove a NA last July and it had 110-138 on all and it did not smoke.
My guess is valve train related. I would not tear it down just yet.
My guess is valve train related. I would not tear it down just yet.
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tell us about the oil restrictor for your journal bearing turbo. I don't know what size you need for a journal bearing turbo, but you probably need one. PM Jkav and post the answer.
Even if the motor was warm, and throttle wide open, then those numbers are still decent, low side to me, but nothing drastic.
The engine definitely has wear but is acceptable. I'm my experience valve guides only show their leakage after sitting for a while (overnight) not constantly, you never know though.
If you have a complete begi kit installed it should have any required restrictor included. This is not to say the turbo isn't leaking oil.
I'm on the stock pcv system and have had 0 oil burn in 3000km, I'm planning to make a catch can but haven't gotten around to it.
If you have the means and a spare car or engine I'd look into a rebuild but that's me not wanting to possibly destroy a rebuildable engine. People do drive Chrysler's and Honda's with them smoking, I just don't know for how long.
If you have a complete begi kit installed it should have any required restrictor included. This is not to say the turbo isn't leaking oil.
I'm on the stock pcv system and have had 0 oil burn in 3000km, I'm planning to make a catch can but haven't gotten around to it.
If you have the means and a spare car or engine I'd look into a rebuild but that's me not wanting to possibly destroy a rebuildable engine. People do drive Chrysler's and Honda's with them smoking, I just don't know for how long.
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this test was with the motor just below operating temp and with the throttle open. And i did each cylinder twice before recording the number.
And no, i do not have a spare car or motor. this is also my only vehicle. Yes, i know i am an idiot...
And no, i do not have a spare car or motor. this is also my only vehicle. Yes, i know i am an idiot...
It'd be worrisome if the numbers were high at first and then stayed the same with oil. since they all went up more or less evenly across the board, I'd say they are okay.
Stupid is me having to pass emissions, think they'll care if I swap ecu's and injectors in the parking lot?
Unless someone, who knows what their doing, can drive it and see the engine operate they are just giving an opinion. Even seeing it run it's an opinion (better than over the internet though), I don't think it's ever a good idea to beat on / drive an (shall we say) injured engine but it's your car.
Anyone you know that could take a look?






