Installed my Fab9 COP kit
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I know these are a pretty ripe topic around here. So i'll share my story.
When Bryan first started putting these together i told him i wanted a set. I also told him i wanted it PnP. That's exactly what he did and then some. Because he was swamped with orders i told him to put mine on the back burner and get them to me when possible. So Bryan drove down to my house tonight to install them tonight. It only took probably 20 minutes tops to get the old stuff out and the new stuff in. Everything went on completely PnP. I still have yet to do some wire management and mount the ignition module. Which may take a few minutes of custom work. Installed the Denso Iridium plugs and stuffed the coils on top. They ARE a tight fit. They are MORE of a tight fit than the stock plug wires are. The car fired right up and ran fine. It idled as good as my tune allowed it to. I set the dwell to 2.5ms in megasquirt. Obviously i'm not going to go drive it, but i did hit the spark cut and built a little boost. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390697616 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390697616 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390697616 Nevermind the injectors and a little piston slap. |
How much of a discount did you receive for advertising a non-paying merchant?
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inferior product
inferior merchant superior aesthetics this thread is full of aids i'll take my truck coils with race plugs over this shit any day. |
Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 1096033)
inferior product
inferior merchant superior aesthetics this thread is full of aids i'll take my truck coils with race plugs over this shit any day. |
I ran Toyota COPs on my factory '99 ECU for years without a problem.
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Originally Posted by 99mx5
(Post 1096097)
I ran Toyota COPs on my factory '99 ECU for years without a problem.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 1096026)
How much of a discount did you receive for advertising a non-paying merchant?
I'm not advertising shit. Buy it, or don't. I don't give a shit, i'm not seeing any money if he sells more or less of these. The point of the thread is to post what i got. That is all.
Originally Posted by soviet
(Post 1096033)
inferior product
inferior merchant superior aesthetics this thread is full of aids i'll take my truck coils with race plugs over this shit any day.
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1096037)
LS coils will not run correctly on a stock ECU, the Fab9 cops will. To me that is the only benefit that they have over the other competition. If you are running a 99/00 with crappy stock coils, and sticking with the factory ecu, then the Fab9 might be a good deal. Otherwise to me they seem like a waste.
Edit* A couple more reasons i decided on this kit (not that i have to justify my purchase with you guys). I wanted new components. If you read my build thread, i DID buy toyota COP's and i didn't like the hacked up wiring, and the ghetto mounting system. Same with the LS truck coils i was going to buy. I wanted something new and PnP. I guess FM big spark kit? That's big money. Which brings me to my next point. These were priced very nicely compared to other kits on the market. I don't want this to turn into a bunch of bullshit, lets be adults here for a second. If you have questions, i can try my best to answer them. If you have nothing good to say, why not just keep it to yourself? |
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where is the love?
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Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1096122)
and the ghetto mounting system.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1096343)
completely objective statement: at least they have a mounting system.
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if by don't i mean a rubber gasket that over time will be suspectable to high temps, oil, and vibrations that will fatigue and fail, then yes.
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In 50k miles, when the rubber "wears out" i'll report back.
I just went and popped the COP's off my bike with one finger, they are significantly looser than these. If it's so bad why do OEM manufactures use them without a some other type of mounting systems? Come on man. Now you're just scratching at the bottom of the barrel to find something bad to say. |
Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1096380)
In 50k miles, when the rubber "wears out" i'll report back.
fair nuff. I just went and popped the COP's off my bike with one finger, they are significantly looser than these. If it's so bad why do OEM manufactures use them without a some other type of mounting systems? Come on man. Now you're just scratching at the bottom of the barrel to find something bad to say. |
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I'm actually now concerned about how loose the coils on my bike are. They are exceptionally easy to pop off.
Either way, i hope this puts an end to this specific debate. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390931094 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390931094 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390931094 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1390931094 |
ill let YOU know when I'm ready to end any debates, thanks.
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I don't think the bike vibrates as much as the BP, but I have no idea.
And overall I agree with you Erat: haterz gonna hate. Everyone says we should use toyota or GM cops and yet there is NO pnp 01+ kit out besides this one, so everyone can suck it. |
I came in expecting a hate parade. Was not disappointed. The sound good for 99-00 cars with the shitty and expensive coils. I dont see the point for anything else. If you're not running enough boost to get spark blowout run stock coils for free, if you are, run truck coils, either $200 to DIY or $$$ to flyin miata. The FM big spark kit is PNP for the 01+, but stupid big money.
I really doubt that this kit is PNP for 01+ cars. The holes for the spark plug boots in the VVT valve cover are a whole bunch smaller than the other valve covers and there's all the other shit in and around the coil area as well. |
Oh yeah I forgot the FM option for like eleventy billion dollars.
Bryan is already running this on an 01 and its working perfectly at 400 something hp |
Erat: Thanks for the drama-free feedback. Are the pencils actually screwed into the terminals at the tops of the plugs?
What's with the "He's not a vendor! rabble!rabble!rabble!" hate? 18psi is not a vendor and he's sold a shitload of parts through the FS section, I'm not a vendor but I moved a pile of laptops through the Other Stuff section, and we don't seem to be shitting on the guy building seat frames, so what gives? Obviously LS2 truck coils are king of the pile. We all (subjectively) know this. If the stock coils are so terrible, why do we not shit on everyone who bothers using them? If the Toyota COPs are now inferior, why are we not shitting on people selling Toyota based kits? If the LS1/LS7 coils in the FM "BigSpark" kit are so inferior, why do we not shit on these as well? I guess I just don't understand the hate.
Originally Posted by 99mx5
(Post 1096097)
I ran Toyota COPs on my factory '99 ECU for years without a problem.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1096106)
you're also not retarded.
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Well its quite different when you're just parting out cars, Bryan is actually putting out brand new products in mass quantities.
But who cares because he already applied to be a sponsor so everyone will be happy now :party: PS: for what its worth, we could not get GM coils to not blow out past 21psi on Ryans beast. No matter what we did. Maybe he wired wem wrong or something, but he went through 2 sets and like 3 or 4 wiring harnesses and still no bueno past 21psi |
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