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99mx5 07-10-2019 12:01 AM

Miaburu?
 
Subaru swap kit for the miata. Attn: Vlad!!!

https://www.miataone.com/the-kit

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...66b47f96a6.png

18psi 07-10-2019 12:12 AM

:likecat:

but definitely needs turbo

psyber_0ptix 07-10-2019 12:26 AM

Ugh, Phase 1 motors

hks_kansei 07-10-2019 12:30 AM

I often open the bonnet of my car and say "man, I wish this was harder to work on and had a gearbox made of glass"

psyber_0ptix 07-10-2019 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by hks_kansei (Post 1541556)
I often open the bonnet of my car and say "man, I wish this was harder to work on and had a gearbox made of glass"

Would it be so bad with the front and center diff removed? You're loading the gears less since it's converting to 2wd... In any event... PPG options

hks_kansei 07-10-2019 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1541557)
Would it be so bad with the front and center diff removed? You're loading the gears less since it's converting to 2wd... In any event... PPG options

No idea, not a Subaru guy so have no real clue about how good/bad the boxes are in real life.

Scaxx 07-10-2019 12:41 AM

BRB, puking. The swap that literally no one asked for, but we got anyway. I thought we were trying to push the vape bois away from miatas, not attract them

psyber_0ptix 07-10-2019 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by hks_kansei (Post 1541559)
No idea, not a Subaru guy so have no real clue about how good/bad the boxes are in real life.


So just conjecture?

I had a 2002 WRX glass trans hold just fine back in 2004 with a vf34. Autocross and rallycross. I must have great luck with transmissions.

They aren't hard engines to work on. Except spark plugs in this case...

hks_kansei 07-10-2019 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1541562)
So just conjecture?

I had a 2002 WRX glass trans hold just fine back in 2004 with a vf34. Autocross and rallycross. I must have great luck with transmissions.

They aren't hard engines to work on. Except spark plugs in this case...

Yeah, 100% conjecture on my part there.


As far as working on, for me it's all about ease of access. I'm lazy.

I just see the heads tucked down there and figure it's going to be a dick to reach anything that's not the alternator.
A lot is probably just unfamiliarity, since i've pretty much owned inline 4s my whole life.
But i'm also petty when it comes to ease of maintenance, and consider V6s to be shit too.

Owned a V6 once, decided to never own one again.
Fuck having 3 timing belts, fuck even the smallest job starting with "remove the intake manifold", etc, etc.
And all to have something that's got barely more than 4cyl power, with heaps more fuel use and complexity.

concealer404 07-10-2019 07:56 AM

Yeah that's gonna be a no from me, dawg.

sixshooter 07-10-2019 09:08 AM

Something else nobody asked for.

https://img.izismile.com/img/img12/2...ass_640_02.jpg

ridethecliche 07-10-2019 09:21 AM

The swap specifies it's for NA motors... Like... why would you want that? What a waste of time.

Padlock 07-10-2019 09:39 AM

I owned a Subaru once, and it blew up twice on me in 5k miles of basic hwy daily driving before I quit on it and sold it off. Meanwhile, the 145k mile BP4W in my NB has been flogged endlessly between the street and track and it doesn't even burn oil (let alone leave me stranded).

The lack of desire to put an EJ in anything that I own cannot be overstated. I can appreciate the outside of the box thinking to get it to fit though.

whitrzac 07-10-2019 10:55 AM

Maybe if it was awd, then it would be cool. Otherwise the EJ is unimpressive at best in every way imaginable.

concealer404 07-10-2019 11:12 AM

Hi there, you'd like a floppier shittier BRZ for same money and more effort? Have we got the swap for you!

18psi 07-10-2019 12:09 PM

:laugh: playerhaters ball in here

....but yeah. the EJ isn't anything special, what makes a subaru cool is the "overall-ness" of it but mostly the turbo and awd. take away the turbo and the awd and you end up with fail and aidz.

x_25 07-10-2019 12:25 PM

Why would you ever want to swap the POS that is the EJ251 in a Maiata? Piston slap, head gaskets, oil leaks, coolant leaks.... Like, really?

At least with the B series engines we only get the oil leaks....

concealer404 07-10-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by x_25 (Post 1541615)

At least with the B series engines we only get the oil leaks....


That is all we get. No power. Just oil leaks.

x_25 07-10-2019 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1541620)
That is all we get. No power. Just oil leaks.

It's not like the SOHC EJ25s make any power either. 165 out of the box, so that's what, 140 wheel? And they haaaaate being turboed without being built....

concealer404 07-10-2019 01:16 PM

I'm not sticking up for the EJ, merely making a funneh. :rofl:

sixshooter 07-10-2019 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1541620)
That is all we get. No power. Just oil leaks.

Speak for yourself, Mr. Naturally Aspirated.

concealer404 07-10-2019 01:45 PM

What's it like to spend a ton of money on a car to make 300whp? :rofl:

sixshooter 07-10-2019 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1541631)
What's it like to spend a ton of money on a car to make 300whp? :rofl:

Therapeutic?

concealer404 07-10-2019 02:07 PM

I don't need that much therapy yet. Maybe in a few years.

sixshooter 07-10-2019 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1541636)
I don't need that much therapy yet. Maybe in a few years.

IDK. I saw what you just did to your house and that was much worse than I did to my car. That was a rebuild I would not have endeavored to execute.

concealer404 07-10-2019 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1541639)
IDK. I saw what you just did to your house and that was much worse than I did to my car. That was a rebuild I would not have endeavored to execute.

I've also owned 3 turbo Miatas, and working on the house was/is way more fun. (This isn't even my final form!)

99mx5 07-10-2019 02:36 PM

One detail I do like is how they made the PPF brace adapter for the transmission. Something like that would be nice for the Getrag boxes.

18psi 07-10-2019 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1541631)
What's it like to spend a ton of money on a car to make 300whp? :rofl:

about the same as spending just as much to make 120, but less gay

sixshooter 07-10-2019 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1541662)
about the same as spending just as much to make 120, but less gay

I don't pick on him too much. He significantly out stances me and I'm intimidated.

concealer404 07-10-2019 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1541662)
about the same as spending just as much to make 120, but less gay

My DPE disagrees. I wouldn't have done anything different, just add $10k to add reliable turbo.

18psi 07-10-2019 06:36 PM

I don't get DP'd, I just make cars faster :giggle:

concealer404 07-10-2019 06:37 PM

My DPE with you disagrees. You do get DP'd.

18psi 07-10-2019 06:43 PM

:makeout:

Mudflap 07-10-2019 07:06 PM

Pardon my lack of knowledge on this. But does anyone actually have first hand knowledge about that motor? Or are we just trashing this motor for the lulz?

sixshooter 07-10-2019 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mudflap (Post 1541685)
Pardon my lack of knowledge on this. But does anyone actually have first hand knowledge about that motor? Or are we just trashing this motor for the lulz?

They do.

And the people writing the article were pretty clear the engine sucks and they didn't understand the swap. That's MOTORTREND not being diplomatic and saying it is a foolish idea, which doesn't happen often.

x_25 07-11-2019 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mudflap (Post 1541685)
Pardon my lack of knowledge on this. But does anyone actually have first hand knowledge about that motor? Or are we just trashing this motor for the lulz?

I killed two of them in my bone stock automaric 99 outback. First one had a massive rear main seal leak at 80k (like people asking if it's on fire at the gas ststion level of leak onto the exhaust), it's headgaskets go at 113k, had that fixed, camshaft seized at 118k. Second one was a professional rebuilt engine. That one lasted 48k and spun a rod bearing just driving down the road. Car had regular 5k mile oil changes and filters with either mobile one or GTX full synthetic.

ViRtUaLheretic 07-11-2019 04:08 PM

I saw that article yesterday and showed that to a coworker who is a adamant subaru guy and he shrugged it off as dumb unless you could do AWD.
The one good thing I did see is the swap kit runs $900 and the motors should be able to be found for cheaps.

Scaxx 07-11-2019 05:09 PM

Yeah 900 to literally just mount the motor and trans. So basically a little less than it costs to mount an LS. The mounting and engine are never the expensive or hard part of a swap. I'd honestly rather have a BP, and that's saying something lolol

Fireindc 07-11-2019 08:46 PM

I really love subies.. but this is just terrible. Literally the worst thing about the BRZ/FRS is the motor..

18psi 07-11-2019 11:46 PM

And the motor in those is lightyears ahead of the EJ251, not even a comparo.

Fireindc 07-12-2019 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1541855)
And the motor in those is lightyears ahead of the EJ251, not even a comparo.

Exactly. And even IF this were an fa20 swap being discussed I'd still say nope.

Holdor 07-12-2019 02:01 AM

Ugh. I saw this article the other day and I barfed in my mouth. As an owner of a newer Subaru they make sense for what they are, but there is zero upside to a boxer motor without using the awd ability. It's the only reason Subaru even developed it, affordable AWD. Which is what makes me hate the BRZ platform.

adamiata 07-12-2019 10:00 AM

But muh rumble.

HowPrayGame 07-12-2019 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by adamiata (Post 1541886)
But muh rumble.

Cx racing has your back with this super high quality header

concealer404 07-12-2019 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by HowPrayGame (Post 1541903)
Cx racing has your back with this super high quality header

There's some videos of that dumpster fire floating around on the tube of you, and i gotta admit, it sounds pretty neat.

But it's a dumpster fire.

A BP with that header probably way better than the abortion that is the swap this thread is about, however. :rofl:

HowPrayGame 07-12-2019 01:22 PM

I was very conflicted when looking for headers, it does sound good however its so poorly made I would rather have an exhaust shop fab up something similar instead.

I have poor taste in exhaust sound so I decided against it.


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