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emilio700 Sep 14, 2017 10:54 PM

Talked to Andrew this afternoon. We will run it on a simple NB2 engine, CA91,, VICS/Square top/Skunk2 all on the same day. Will post the results in a new thread. If it's good, we'll offer it on our site. If it's not good, we won't.
Based on what I can see in the pics and what they have published, it actually looks correct. We have had some rough CAD drawings for a BP IM project for years, just waiting for some free time between other big projects to start on it. Looks like ours.

Erat Sep 14, 2017 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1439697)
Well, if you took the time to read the product description before blabbing your mouth on the internet, you'll see that it is " Tapped with 1/8” NPT, 1/4” NPT and 10mm threads for accessories"

I should have added the /sarcasm tags

ctdrftna Sep 15, 2017 05:42 AM

Also keep in mind that these manifolds are thick as hell and can see major flow gains from porting.

Madjak Sep 15, 2017 09:19 AM

The runners actually look like the correct length. My modified skunk2 pro street hangs straight out from the motor on a welded flange and I've had no issues over 2 years of motorsport and this on an engine that shakes everything loose! The cast plenum lid is pretty light.

I think these will work well for big boost and N/A builds with big cams like mine assuming the runner diameters are similar to the honda skunk2 manifolds.

Bryan Z. Sep 15, 2017 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1439703)
We will run it on a simple NB2 engine, CA91,, VICS/Square top/Skunk2 all on the same day. Will post the results in a new thread.

In for results.

KMiata Sep 15, 2017 01:50 PM

In for results too. The only real complaint we've had with the S2 manifolds for the K series is that the casting can be pretty rough and the ports can occasionally be a little off. The thermal gaskets usually need to be opened up a bit with a deburring tool as well.

But they generally make good power and as Josh said, they can be easily ported. My guess is that this will do pretty well for the Miata community.

shuiend Sep 15, 2017 01:58 PM

At $400 if it at least matches the flat top performance wise these will probably sell.

Lincoln Logs Sep 15, 2017 02:06 PM

I have one on the way as well for testing on my Rotrex car, very curious to see how these perform.

emilio700 Sep 15, 2017 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Logs (Post 1439825)
I have one on the way as well for testing on my Rotrex car, very curious to see how these perform.

Controlled A/B testing or just sticking it on an tuning it?

Lincoln Logs Sep 15, 2017 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1439832)
Controlled A/B testing or just sticking it on an tuning it?

Current dyno arrangement makes it a little difficult to A/B but going to do what I can to make that happen. Also swapping a Junk2 throttle body on at the same time, need to ditch the time bomb on there now.

vteckiller2000 Sep 15, 2017 03:12 PM

I'll do an a/b on the dyno with my 300+ whp turbo car. Not the most desired data point, but it will probably be interesting. It will be a flat top comparison though.

Goingnowherefast Sep 15, 2017 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 (Post 1439847)
I'll do an a/b on the dyno with my 300+ who turbo car. Not the most desired data point, but it will probably be interesting. It will be a flat top comparison though.

That's good, that's what we want haha.

doward Sep 15, 2017 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Logs (Post 1439833)
Current dyno arrangement makes it a little difficult to A/B but going to do what I can to make that happen. Also swapping a Junk2 throttle body on at the same time, need to ditch the time bomb on there now.

A. Baseline control OE TB + OE IM
B. Swap to S2 TB + OE IM
C. Swap to OE TB + S2 IM
D. S2 IM + S2 TB
E. Control verification
F. Reinstall highest performing combo

For science.

18psi Sep 15, 2017 03:46 PM

that sounds glorious. hoping it actually happens, cause we've been promised IM testing for quite some time now

psyber_0ptix Sep 15, 2017 04:14 PM

I could also be persuaded to do a square top vs. square top killer comparison after all the e85 stuff is running gravy, however, I will be gone for two weeks.

julio Sep 15, 2017 07:59 PM

Anyone else notice that they list 68 mm as intake bore at least on the MiataRoadster site and their Miata throttle bodies (which I have one of) are 64 mm? That seems like it might be a bit of an issue unless you used a different throttle body.

• 68mm throttle body opening

Does look like it might not be bad otherwise. I'd really like to see a comparison to the square top.

psyber_0ptix Sep 15, 2017 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by julio (Post 1439916)
Anyone else notice that they list 68 mm as intake bore at least on the MiataRoadster site and their Miata throttle bodies (which I have one of) are 64 mm? That seems like it might be a bit of an issue unless you used a different throttle body.

• 68mm throttle body opening

Does look like it might not be bad otherwise. I'd really like to see a comparison to the square top.


Non issue, the gasket should still work fine for the 64mm right?

Bronson M Sep 15, 2017 09:25 PM

Some dude named Eric Gonzalez claiming to work for junk2 just posted to a Facebook for sale group I watch about this intake. His post included this dyno plot of a turbo'd car. No other info given.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7f3eee5e50.jpg

vteckiller2000 Sep 15, 2017 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1439931)
Some dude named Eric Gonzalez claiming to work for junk2 just posted to a Facebook for sale group I watch about this intake. His post included this dyno plot of a turbo'd car. No other info given.

Interestingish... But the rev range that is more relevant is not shown and it doesn't specify which stock intake was used. I'll reserve my thoughts.

Stealth97 Sep 15, 2017 11:14 PM

Nice gains in the midrange... the price is certainly right. Eagerly waiting on some reviews


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