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achervig 03-20-2017 09:48 AM

New Stage 2 Boundary Oil Pump - Rough Shape
 
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So I just got a new Boundary Stage 2 pump in the mail. It came in a bubble wrapper and nothing else, and it looks rough as hell. See the photos. Is this thing going to work or am I just asking for leaks if I install it? I've been waiting for a Boundary pump for weeks now, even upgraded to the Stage 2 in order to get it here quicker, but for $400 I wasn't expecting this. Also, when Boundary says "Billet", I guess they're just referring to the internals?

Take a look at the photos and share your opinion. Would you install this pump in your $5k engine rebuild?

aidandj 03-20-2017 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by achervig (Post 1399819)
Take a look at the photos and share your opinion. Would you install this pump in your $5k engine rebuild?

No. I'd ask for a refund and a new one.

eddyc49 03-20-2017 10:16 AM

Where did you purchase it from? (although by the shape it's in I'm sure I already know the answer)

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shuiend 03-20-2017 10:18 AM

Billet refers only to the gears inside it. Not sure where exactly the source the pump bodies from.

dleavitt 03-20-2017 10:19 AM

Billet gears in a re-manufactured stock housing from my understanding.

Looks like they threw it down a driveway prior to packing, I'd get a replacement.

aidandj 03-20-2017 10:19 AM

Pump bodies are supposed to be new mazda.

achervig 03-20-2017 10:20 AM

Fab9. Not wanting to throw them under the bus just yet though.

dleavitt 03-20-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by achervig (Post 1399835)
Fab9. Not wanting to throw them under the bus just yet though.

And to the surprise of no one....

achervig 03-20-2017 10:32 AM

No gaskets came with it or anything either. Normal?

jpreston 03-20-2017 10:33 AM

What the fuck.

achervig 03-20-2017 10:40 AM

So I got hosed, and here I am trying to get this thing back together in time for the Mitty in April. Do the Boundary pumps normally come with gaskets? Does the pump normally come in a damn box at least?

shuiend 03-20-2017 10:53 AM

I forget who I ordered my VVT BE pump from. It came with the circle gasket, and a nice wax sealed letter from Travis. I thought it was pretty fancy.

stormin'norman 03-20-2017 10:56 AM

This presentation is par for the course when ordering from them.

My S2 throttle body came with a few ripped up pieces of the original Skunk box thrown inside a USPS shipping sack - zero structure to protect the unit in shipping. The BE pumps should come in a box with an inspection sheet and some other literature.

GL working with Fab to sort it. Communication was painful.

psyber_0ptix 03-20-2017 11:02 AM

I chuckled when I read Fab9. I'm sorry for your loss.

dleavitt 03-20-2017 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1399860)
I chuckled when I read Fab9. I'm sorry for your loss.

With these threads, it always seems to come down to: "Okay, Fab9 or BEGi? Oh, he actually received parts? Fab9 then."

Colipto 03-20-2017 11:15 AM

and no fucking o ring. I hear alot of people having this same experience.

bahurd 03-20-2017 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by achervig (Post 1399844)
So I got hosed, and here I am trying to get this thing back together in time for the Mitty in April. Do the Boundary pumps normally come with gaskets? Does the pump normally come in a damn box at least?

No they don't.

I have a VVT pump from the same vendor and it arrived exactly like the BE web site said it would, "heat sealed in a plastic bag to prevent contamination". It's still unopened but looking through the plastic the mating surface has the usual edge "chipping" you find normally. The only other part included is the o-ring inside the sealed bag.

If you like, I can snap a picture of what mine looks like as received.

shuiend 03-20-2017 11:29 AM

I looked up my records and I got my BE VVT pump from Fab9 in 2015, it came with the o-ring, and the wax sealed letter.

bahurd 03-20-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1399871)
I looked up my records and I got my BE VVT pump from Fab9 in 2015, it came with the o-ring, and the wax sealed letter.

I got mine from FAB9 in Jan 2017.

achervig 03-20-2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1399867)
No they don't.
If you like, I can snap a picture of what mine looks like as received.

Yeah that'd be helpful, thanks, and thanks all for the responses. I wonder if I can file down the high points on the mating surfaces and use paper gaskets along with "Right Stuff" and get good seals.


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