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Old 10-01-2018, 07:59 PM
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Don't use a cheap head gasket. Use OEM or Fel-Pro
yea planning on using a fel-pro like I linked.
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Here goes. Let’s see if I can avoid ******* anything up too bad.
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So Iíve managed to get just about everything off, except for the head. I have all ten bolts out. It seems stuck in place. Should I try to convince it with a rubber mallet? Or am I missing some hidden bolts somewhere? Also I managed to gouge the **** out of the crankshaft getting the seal out. How big of a deal is this? And is there anything I can do to fix it? Thanks.
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Oh, you just made it so much worse.

edit: the crank will need to be addressed. you can try knocking down the high spots with a file / sandpaper wrapped around a popsicle stick. The surface needs to be smooth, or else the seal will leak and degrade the timing belt in short order (I messed up a crank seal once, knew it was slinging oil, and it lasted 5 weeks before it stripped the teeth on the belt on a downshift.) If you can't get it sufficiently smooth, there's a part called a redi-sleeve that slides over the bearing/seal surface.

If you've got everything off the head, there some flat spots you can use to pry the head up at the corner(s) - once you free the sticktion, it should be easier to pull off. There are two(?) alignment dowels that position the head directly where it should be (plus the headgasket material itself) that's fighting you.

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Originally Posted by gooflophaze View Post
Oh, you just made it so much worse.

edit: the crank will need to be addressed. you can try knocking down the high spots with a file / sandpaper wrapped around a popsicle stick. The surface needs to be smooth, or else the seal will leak and degrade the timing belt in short order (I messed up a crank seal once, knew it was slinging oil, and it lasted 5 weeks before it stripped the teeth on the belt on a downshift.) If you can't get it sufficiently smooth, there's a part called a redi-sleeve that slides over the bearing/seal surface.

If you've got everything off the head, there some flat spots you can use to pry the head up at the corner(s) - once you free the sticktion, it should be easier to pull off. There are two(?) alignment dowels that position the head directly where it should be (plus the headgasket material itself) that's fighting you.
Thanks, Iíll try all this tommorow. If I can get the high spots down, should I worry about trying to fill the groves with something? Or do you think Iím just better off getting the Redi-sleeves? Seem to be only around $30
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Redi-sleeves are mainly used where you've got a groove worn into the spot where the seal contacts the spinning bit, making a ring that doesn't seal well. Sometimes you can hack it by not seating your seal all the way down (moving the contact point forward).

Basically - it depends on where the seal sits. I'd go ahead and try it (assuming you can reasonably knock the high spots, low spots aren't in the sealing area), and leave the upper timing cover off for a few weeks to see if the timing belt is getting oily. In my case, I knew it was getting oily - but I was 6 weeks away from getting my other car on the road and knew I was on borrowed time from the oil degrading the belt. As a result I no longer do a crank seal unless I know it's leaking - if it's dry, I let it be.

And in the future - if you're can't get a seal out without marring a surface - marr the non-spinning surface, a dab of RTV will prevent it from leaking.
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Soooo, the thin about redi sleeves is you need space to push them on and then peel off the ring that was used to push them on. There is not going to be enough space with the oil pump.on the car as far as I know. I couldn't get enough space to do one for the rear main seal.

You may be able to just pull the oil pump and get space, but I think that means pulling the pan? You are basically looking at engine out.
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OP,

After a similar gouge on the rear transmission shaft, I had success sealing it with JB Weld. I knocked down the high spots using small files, filled in the low spots with JB Weld and then finely sanded that down with emery cloth. If you can't get a Redi Sleeve in there without pulling the engine, you can probably accomplish this with it still in the car.

Disclaimer: The crank will get much warmer than the rear trans seal area, so your results may vary.
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Originally Posted by x_25 View Post
Soooo, the thin about redi sleeves is you need space to push them on and then peel off the ring that was used to push them on. There is not going to be enough space with the oil pump.on the car as far as I know. I couldn't get enough space to do one for the rear main seal.

You may be able to just pull the oil pump and get space, but I think that means pulling the pan? You are basically looking at engine out.
Fair point - full disclaimer, I've never had to use a redi-sleeve but knew it was an option. Hopefully filing back the gouges works.
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So I forgot to tighten the nuts on the EGR tube. I found this out because the check engine light came on. It had come totally loose. I fixed this, but the light still comes on. Could leaving the EGR tube loose for a bit have ruined something else? Code is p0106. Not sure what to try next. But other than that the car seems to work great. And the timing belt doesn’t seem to be getting oily so seems like the RTV did the trick.


Also picked up a used set of Hard S Bilsteins for cheap to do the build your own thing.

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Well I figured out the egr thing, and now the engine is knocking and there are flakes in the oil. Looks like Iím pulling the engine. Ffs.
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At least you have an excuse to fix the crank now?
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Originally Posted by x_25 View Post
At least you have an excuse to fix the crank now?
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well that escalated real quick, from a blown head gasket to knocking engine within a week. nuts.
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
well that escalated real quick, from a blown head gasket to knocking engine within a week. nuts.
pretty sure itís a rod bearing, it was the first time I accelerated hard with the car. First gear to about 5 or 6 thousand rpm and I hear a boom. Oh well lol guess Iím gonna learn a lot about engines?
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Originally Posted by Enzob007 View Post

pretty sure it’s a rod bearing, it was the first time I accelerated hard with the car. First gear to about 5 or 6 thousand rpm and I hear a boom. Oh well lol guess I’m gonna learn a lot about engines?
watch "the car passion channel" on youtube, he has excellent videos on engine disassembly and assembly.
i've used those videos during my engine build. and it was very useful to see everything taken apart before i dove into my own engine.

good luck. and if you are planning on boost, add stronger rods while the engine is apart.
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
watch "the car passion channel" on youtube, he has excellent videos on engine disassembly and assembly.
i've used those videos during my engine build. and it was very useful to see everything taken apart before i dove into my own engine.

good luck. and if you are planning on boost, add stronger rods while the engine is apart.
yea greg seems to know what hes doing. I used his water pump and timing belt video and I've watched a bunch of his other ones.
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