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vw_nut 08-02-2011 12:37 PM

If it is the basic turbo xs controller and not the high performance one with 2 screws it is a bleed type.

Ball and spring will make a huge difference especially with an internal gate.

:2cents:

fmowry 08-02-2011 01:46 PM

Google search for turbo boost leak tester, do it, post results of where you hear the whistling/whooshing sound.

miatauser123 08-02-2011 02:21 PM

I'm not dismissing the leak possibility, just looking for updated opinions after the video. I'll run the test after work and we'll see what I come up with. Thanks for the input related to the BEGI valve specifically.


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 755862)
I just wanted to be the 7th person to suggest that it's most likely a boost leak. As stated previously, a leak between the turbo and throttle body will not affect idle or drop off boost at high rpms.

When I first turbocharged my car I made the exact same thread, everyone said it was a boost leak so I pressure tested the charge piping. My blow off valve (that came with the BEGI kit) was leaking quite a bit of air. I swapped it out and the problem was gone.


v01canic 08-02-2011 03:54 PM

a good way to check for a vacuum leak is to spray brake cleaner around all the connections and wait for a drop in idle

Savington 08-02-2011 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Dem768 (Post 755855)
It's probably not the boost controller.

I'll one-up you - it's definitely not the boost controller. You have a big-ass boost leak, or a problem with the wastegate/wastegate actuator. Pressurize your charge pipes/IC first.

miatauser123 08-02-2011 05:50 PM

Bahah. I've never driven this car without that problem... I'm a little excited.

miatauser123 08-02-2011 09:51 PM

So I took off my intake pipe and connected my tester coupler... Blew 100% of 20lbs out the back of my turbo. New seals for me I guess.

Faeflora 08-02-2011 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Dem768 (Post 756080)
So I took off my intake pipe and connected my tester coupler... Blew 100% of 20lbs out the back of my turbo. New seals for me I guess.

Huh???? What is the back of the turbo?

miatauser123 08-02-2011 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 756093)
Huh???? What is the back of the turbo?

Well what seems to be the 'back'. The back of the cold side is where it seems like it's coming from, between the cold and hot side. I couldn't tell where exactly it's coming from but its blowing out freely. The regulator was set to 20 and it built no pressure. Cranked it up and still nothing. What seal or seals am I going to need?

Faeflora 08-02-2011 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Dem768 (Post 756102)
Well what seems to be the 'back'. The back of the cold side is where it seems like it's coming from, between the cold and hot side. I couldn't tell where exactly it's coming from but its blowing out freely. The regulator was set to 20 and it built no pressure. Cranked it up and still nothing. What seal or seals am I going to need?

The back of the compressor housing? You mean where the housing bolts onto the CHRA?

miatauser123 08-02-2011 11:09 PM

Yes. That's where it sounds like it's coming from.

JasonC SBB 08-03-2011 12:31 AM

Busted (large) O-ring or cocked compressor housing.

Faeflora 08-03-2011 12:54 AM

Easy fix. Red RTV it.


Savington 08-03-2011 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 756145)

:hustler::hustler::hustler::hustler::hustler::hust ler::hustler:

Get a new o-ring, don't listen to a word Sir Sawzall over there says.

miatauser123 08-03-2011 04:24 AM

O ring ordered. I've been looking for a good time to get my heat shields ceramic coated and my header wire wheeled anyways. I'm glad it's nothing big though. Can I replace this without unbolting everything?

Any reason this might have happened? This setup doesn't even have 4k on it. Unfortunately I've recently been tuning for this unmetered air.. Bust, but I'm looking forward to the spooling :)

As for the RTV. I appreciate the quick fix suggestion, but I've seen your build thread my friend ;) Advice taken with a grain of salt.

miatauser123 08-03-2011 12:04 PM

Update: Yes, the turbo is leaking all of the air out of it, no that's not a problem?

I contacted my distributor for Garrett and he said that's normal, and it's likely not my issue. The GT28 does not even have a gasket. He told me to double check my waste gate preload, so I'll give that a shot.

Faeflora - In your defense, you can indeed use RTV to seal the turbo, but it's not necessary. Although, if you were under the impression that the turbo DID have a gasket, you're still ghetto for trying to use RTV in it's place :)

When I unplug my boost controller and leave it open, the car will boost to 10LBS... When I plug my line directly to the WG, i boost to 5LBS. Is this normal?

shlammed 08-03-2011 03:11 PM

my turbo did this a week before it stopped boosting completely...

check the shaft play.

then check leakdown of all of the charge pipes, exhaust leaks and intake manifold leaks.

my bet is on intake manifold leak based on the fact that to change injectors you need to pull the upper plenum.

miatauser123 08-03-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 756338)
my turbo did this a week before it stopped boosting completely...

check the shaft play.

then check leakdown of all of the charge pipes, exhaust leaks and intake manifold leaks.

my bet is on intake manifold leak based on the fact that to change injectors you need to pull the upper plenum.

What caused it? What turbo do or did you have at the time? What did you do to fix it? My shaft play in and out was pretty minimal/normal. Up and down was zero.

Faeflora 08-03-2011 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Dem768 (Post 756266)
Update: Yes, the turbo is leaking all of the air out of it, no that's not a problem?

I contacted my distributor for Garrett and he said that's normal, and it's likely not my issue. The GT28 does not even have a gasket. He told me to double check my waste gate preload, so I'll give that a shot.

When I unplug my boost controller and leave it open, the car will boost to 10LBS... When I plug my line directly to the WG, i boost to 5LBS. Is this normal?



What the fuckign hell?

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE AIR COMING OUT OF THE TURBO. THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PLACES IT COULD BE LEAKING FROM. CLARIFY BITCH!!

PINPOINT THE LOCATION BY FELCHING THE SANTORUM OUT OF YOUR GAY LVOERS ASS (NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY) AND SMEARING IT ALL OVER THE TURBO. THEN PRESSURESIZE THE SHIT.

TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOUR FAT FINGER POINTING TO WHERE THE LEAK IS COMING FROM YOU CUNTMONKEY.

miatauser123 08-03-2011 05:11 PM

This has been clarified. To the best of my knowledge it's leaking between the compressor housing and the CHRA. The same place that an O Ring, or a Gasket would go if the turbo was intended to have one. Ps. getmadplease.


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