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thirdgen 08-25-2013 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1047039)
I agree about everything except the rotary.

A 13b swap would be excellent.

Dann

There's a reason why people who own rx7's do LS v8 swaps. If you can guess what it is, you get 13 points.

Stein 08-25-2013 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by acro 94 (Post 1046826)
i am a qualified welder and mechanic so normal engine swaps and metal fabrication is like a walk in the park for me


Originally Posted by acro 94 (Post 1046871)
yeah i would build my 1.6 too but the bottom end can only handle 250 before it grenades unless i can get work done to it or get a stronger bottom end either

So which is it, you are a qualified mechanic or a hack that has cobbled one engine swap at some point in the past?

Let me guess, you once bolted a b124c12456ge3-43 type rrrrrrr Honda motor into a civic right?

nitrodann 08-25-2013 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1047047)
There's a reason why people who own rx7's do LS v8 swaps. If you can guess what it is, you get 13 points.

Because they are from america?

In australia we have this thing called 'All of the rotor records in existance'. So we have a LOT of great shops here.

Dann

thirdgen 08-25-2013 12:08 PM

I live 10 minutes away from probably the best rotary tune shop on the east coast. They also do LS v8 swaps. Why would somebody ditch the rotary for a LS v8? Better fuel economy, reliability, larger aftermarket avaibility, more torque, the list goes on.

karter74 08-25-2013 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1047052)
Because they are from america?

In australia we have this thing called 'All of the rotor records in existance'. So we have a LOT of great shops here.

Dann

I don't want to start a big America vs Australia argument here, but having records like that isn't impressive. You can have the record of most polished turd in existence and it's probably because no one else wants to bother.

Seriously, anyone who goes rotary and still wants plenty of RELIABLE power is a big idiot.

miata2fast 08-25-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1047071)
I live 10 minutes away from probably the best rotary tune shop on the east coast. They also do LS v8 swaps. Why would somebody ditch the rotary for a LS v8? Better fuel economy, reliability, larger aftermarket avaibility, more torque, the list goes on.

Not to talk shit, but the quickest ever Miata chassis in the quarter is powered by a rotary.

I personally detest the way the 13b sounds. The 3 rotor sounds pretty awesome.

thirdgen 08-25-2013 12:57 PM


I've seen a white Miata drag car, I think it was on Vimeo...it was faster than the rotary one I just posted. It was a 2.0 4 cylinder if I remember with some huge turbo and an unheard of amount of boost. I don't care enough to find it, cause those cars are clearly for drag use only. Take a poll of every person that ditched the rotary and LS v8 swapped...I'm sure they have no regrets.

miata2fast 08-25-2013 02:57 PM

Ironically, the drag Miata you are referring to is about a mile from my house as the crow flies. If you go to dragtimes.com. there is a rotary Miata that holds the #1 spot. It is faster than the BP powered car you are referring to.

I talked to the owner of the white car about bringing it out sometime. He is just not ready to do so.

Leafy 08-25-2013 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1047052)
Because they are from america?

In australia we have this thing called 'All of the rotor records in existance'. So we have a LOT of great shops here.

Dann

This is the best one. Much glorious noises. 6 rotor, P port. I want one in an RX3 with flares and massive tires.


mx5-kiwi 08-26-2013 01:15 AM

Australia/ New Zealand v the WORLD!! :vash2: Oh Yeah.

Although I'm gonna pull the New Zealand wins v the world in this case... (just like the rugby :giggle:)

That 6 rotor was built only about 8.5 hours from my house (as the crow flys). :facepalm:

acro 94 08-26-2013 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 1047051)
So which is it, you are a qualified mechanic or a hack that has cobbled one engine swap at some point in the past?

Let me guess, you once bolted a b124c12456ge3-43 type rrrrrrr Honda motor into a civic right?

no man i dont play with little kid toys like civics and integras i might be 18 and all but most people who own hondas here are complete douches and theres already a f20c swapped miata here so im not going to do that

and im a qualified mechanic not some hack as you call it


Robert

shuiend 08-26-2013 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by acro 94 (Post 1047345)
no man i dont play with little kid toys like civics and integras i might be 18 and all but most people who own hondas here are complete douches and theres already a f20c swapped miata here so im not going to do that

and im a qualified mechanic not some hack as you call it


Robert

If you are 18 then you are not a qualified mechanic. :dealwithit:

Braineack 08-26-2013 11:46 AM

doesnt play with kids toy, installs a kids toy motor.

thenuge26 08-26-2013 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by acro 94 (Post 1047345)
no man i dont play with little kid toys like civics and integras i might be 18 and all but most people who own hondas here are complete douches and theres already a f20c swapped miata here so im not going to do that

and im a qualified mechanic not some hack as you call it


Robert

Calling bullshit on this one. Even an 18-year-old would know that is a stupid and immature idea.


Since there's already LOTS of sr20 swapped Miatas too I guess we can count that out.


Nobody has swapped the 1L ecoboost turbo I3, I'm still waiting to see someone do that. With enough boost they can make the same 200hp as the sr20 so I'd go for that one OP. 200hp + 50mpg = winning :dealwithit:

concealer404 08-26-2013 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by acro 94 (Post 1046826)
hey guys i have been thinking about this for quite a while and have been seriously thinking or doing the sr20 swap , does anyone know what mods are needed to make the sr20 fit into the miata, just take into consideration i am a qualified welder and mechanic so normal engine swaps and metal fabrication is like a walk in the park for me, but putting a SR into a miata is uncharted waters for me, this would be my 3rd different manufacture engine into a separate automobile company chassis, any help and guidelines would be awesome,


Robert

If you have all this experience, then there's no need for you to be asking questions.




However, they're questions that CLEARLY have never been asked before! I can't believe nobody has ever thought of an SR20 swap before!

18psi 08-26-2013 12:53 PM

guys has anyone here swapped a BP into a miata?

concealer404 08-26-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1047216)
This is the best one. Much glorious noises. 6 rotor, P port. I want one in an RX3 with flares and massive tires.

6B 6 Rotor Flames - YouTube



That motor lives in an RX4. There's videos of it driving, as well as on the dyno.

Power. It makes it.

Leafy 08-26-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1047446)
That motor lives in an RX4. There's videos of it driving, as well as on the dyno.

Power. It makes it.

Yeah only like 815hp or something though... with like 40ftlbs of torque. I didnt post the dyno video because it sounds like crap with the exhaust pointed directly at a wall. And the track video is laughably bad.

18psi 08-26-2013 01:09 PM

who needs torque though.

its all about shifting at 10k and waking the dead on your morning commute to work

concealer404 08-26-2013 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1047453)
Yeah only like 815hp or something though... with like 40ftlbs of torque. I didnt post the dyno video because it sounds like crap with the exhaust pointed directly at a wall. And the track video is laughably bad.

By 40ftlbs of torque, you mean "over 500ftlbs to the wheels across 6000rpms of powerband," right?

On an easy break-in tune.

Not one person on this entire forum has any room to laugh at the torque that thing is making.


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