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I am going to check more tomorrow while I have daylight. But to me it seems it has slipped. My jaw dropped when I saw how far my marks were off, made me thing my plugs were swapped or some odd end thing, but couldn't be because the car runs like a champ.
Joe, any suggestions on sites for a new pulley? |
HUSTLER WINS AGAIN!!!! Behold his glory.
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
(Post 889293)
My pulley wobbles a tad bit but nothing I am concerned about.
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You are on the other end of the glory hole hustler, because that was my first thought, you guys just made me 100% sure on my problem :jerkit:
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
(Post 889304)
Joe, any suggestions on sites for a new pulley?
Does anybody remember what year RicanRacer's car is? You could maybe just steal the crank pulley off of his engine.
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 889306)
HUSTLER WINS AGAIN!!!! Behold his glory.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
(Post 889309)
...short nose failure happens on long noses too. :vash:
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 889312)
Well, I was going to say Rosenthal, but then I noticed how much they want for one.
Does anybody remember what year RicanRacer's car is? You could maybe just steal the crank pulley off of his engine. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 889312)
... says the Man with Two Anuses.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 889317)
Pm me for pics.
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
(Post 889313)
I have always thought it didn't back when I owned my NB, I know it's not a NA engine but my readings made me believe it never happened. Those were in the spec miata days, I have joined the dark side? or whatever side you guys are on
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Originally Posted by triple88a
(Post 889322)
Its very common on pre 93 models however on our models it will still happen if the crank is not tightened properly. The pulley will be able to turn little by little and wear down the crank. On my old NA thats what happened. The crank was worn about an extra 1/8th where the keyway was and also the pulley was wobbling enough to the point where the belts would come off.
I need to find a good used one for a good price. I reused mine when I rebuilt my engine but I put a new woodruff key in, but it still slightly wobbles. The made sure I tightened the piss out of it but didn't want to get it to tight. Father thinks the crank wobbles until I told him the pulleys are known to go bad. |
You can try putting an indicator on the crank and seeing if it runs out. Also the center piece should still be running straight if the pulley it self is bad.
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I would figure if the crank was bad the pulley would still wobble when I raise my rpms, the pulley straightens out and seems normal when given some gas. Only at idle does it have that slight wobble to it
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Yeah, we need to remember that there are two very distinct failure modes here. The "short nose failure" is usually caused by the crank bolt being improperly torqued, and involves the keyway in the cambelt gear and / or pulley boss becoming deformed by the woodruff key. This can destroy not only the gear/boss, but also the crank itself.
Slippage of the pulley itself has no specific cause in negligence, it just happens as the stuff gets old. It causes no serious mechanical damage to the engine, you just wind up with a pulley that slips further and further out of true until it finally splits completely in half early one morning while you're merging onto the freeway in heavy traffic in the rain while running late for a court appearance. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 889339)
Yeah, we need to remember that there are two very distinct failure modes here. The "short nose failure" is usually caused by the crank bolt being improperly torqued, and involves the keyway in the cambelt gear and / or pulley boss becoming deformed by the woodruff key. This can destroy not only the gear/boss, but also the crank itself.
Slippage of the pulley itself has no specific cause in negligence, it just happens as the stuff gets old. It causes no serious mechanical damage to the engine, you just wind up with a pulley that slips further and further out of true until it finally splits completely in half early one morning while you're merging onto the freeway in heavy traffic in the rain while running late for a court appearance. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 889339)
Yeah, we need to remember that there are two very distinct failure modes here. The "short nose failure" is usually caused by the crank bolt being improperly torqued, and involves the keyway in the cambelt gear and / or pulley boss becoming deformed by the woodruff key. This can destroy not only the gear/boss, but also the crank itself.
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Hopefully my machinist has another one, he has a 1.8 short block sitting at his shop I am going to pickup from him i'll see about a pulley
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Somebody on here has an extra dampner pulley for you. It is an oft overlooked piece when cars and engines are parted out. Start asking people in the for sale section.
And yes, this is definitely the dark side. This forum has a bit of a reputation for both technical prowess and devilish insidiousness. |
Are all long nose 94-97 the same? Or do I need a 96/97 pulley?
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Same pulley for all engines '94 - '97.
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