hahahah I think you read my mind Leo:laugh:

Reason I asked ctd if he re-dyno'd with boost control is because that graph doesn't really impress me next to yours, and I'd like to see what that car would do with boost hitting as early as possible to see if those cams really are worth a shit. I mean you hit 400 and held it to damn near redline on stockers.........he has nearly nothing til about 5k

ctd do you have dyno plot of 20psi?

Don't be jelly of dat lump

I remember when you where getting boners about building a vvt head w/ cams and everyone on the chat saying you were stupid. More mid-range torque would just kill your tires and make you take up 6spd collecting as a hobby. Donky punch dat drive train son :vash2:

lol
yeah :loser:
I'd still like to build it but I'm spending money on racing w2w in lemons this year

Yes. What's your revlimit? 5 speed or 6 speed? What rear end?

You will want the power to plateau and then start to dip just before your revlimit. This gives you the most area under the power curve.

I have yet to see a dyno chart from a cammed turbo BP that impresses me.

We're working to change that in 2013, though.

No dyno on 20psi, what would impress you? Keep in mind the cams and intake were done to rev high. And I'm only reving to 8 when I can be going to 9. I would like to see better boost response, these cams bleed off a lot of compression so I want to play with the gears on the dyno and pull some overlap out, that with ebc I should get better torque and full boost sooner. I don't know why I was in such a rush when I dyno'd the car

I laugh every time someone whines when a cammed car does not make power until later in the rpm range, but does not take account that it is still pulling hard at well over 8000 rpm.

rev limit is 7500rpm but there is nothing stopping it reving a bit higher. Has sealed power valve springs and stainless +1mm valves, carrillo A-beam rods etc.

6 speed box with 3.6 rear end.

Engine is almost back together now so cams are going to be something for the future. Will see what the standard cams are like with some adjustment with the new GTX2867r.

what sort of cam timing figures are working for the mk2 cams and head? i know its something that we will have to play with on the dyno but roughly where to start?

I wasn't disrespecting you. But I'd want to see more area under the curve.

I know, that's not the point of cams, but when both of you are making around 400, and he's got triple the area under curve, on stock head, its hard to be impressed with your plot.

And soviets car is still pulling hard at 7k...whats your point? if he was making 500 at 8k then itd be different. I'm not whining, just comparing and expecting (or wanting) to see more.

That's why I'd like to see ctd run ALLOFIT

TSE is coming out with some cams soon for VVT - you might ask if he's planning on cams for non-VVT in the future?

Oops - sorry, didn't realize Sav posted above (stopped reading at Page 2) - yeah, wut he said, 2013 :loser:

Patients is a virtue, I'm gonna try to run on the dyno again this year. Can you post the other dyno chart your comparing mine to, or post a link. Also what turbo and boost pressure. I'm curious to see the torque difference with stock cams

Oh man, thanks for telling me that in our late-night google chatting since that might play a role in my engine selection. This is the kind of disrespect that's going to get you banned.

In for group buy.

https://www.miataturbo.net/dynos-tim...-6758-a-68914/

he's running more boost, etc. but the head is stock, so is the IM, and an otherwise very basic setup vs your super fancy one. its not apples vs apples, but like I said I'd really want to see yours on high boost cause right now his plot is 10x more desireable

Well that explains why his graph looks so good, EFR. I think that comparing apples to apples I wouldn't mind seeing his dyno with the 3071r ( that's what I run )

The guys at Delta are good dudes. They're one of the last remaining two places that do cams for the F2 motors. (Colt is the other). I have a Delta 272 waiting to go in my car.

Prices are very reasonable, and i wouldn't be surprised if they had grinds already in their system.

TSE needs to focus on bringing their turbo kit to market. I was going to get castings done of a few new manifold designs but I decided to refinance my house instead. Fuck PMI. I need to pay for day care.

TurboTim needs to get some cams for his KL. :vash2:

We are perfectly capable of simultaneously developing more than one product at the same glacial pace, thank you very much :giggle:

Perhaps. I am the cam spool guy at work. But if I need more power I will just add a psi or two more boost.

EDIT: Actually we cannot do the gears on the KL cams so those would be too expensive for me.

OHHH right, I was thinking BEGI. My bad!

EFR is magical and makes up for all the shortcomings of my setup.
Feel free to send me your hotside so I can dyno it :P